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Liquid filled tires? and turf vs field?

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rod

08-19-2001 07:54:25




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I purchased my 1947 9n restored [this is a loose term here, meaning non-working parts were replaced with the most expedient and cost effective measure] and have been updating and improving her for the last 4 years. I recently found that the right rear severly cracked and checked field tire is filled with a liquid. I presume it is a form of chloride as it has a distinct salty taste [don't ask how I know this...]. The left,almost knew, is filled with air, at 10 lbs of pressure. My questions are: Is this imbalance in weight a problem? Should I remove the liquid or fill the left field tire with liquid? If and when I need to replace the right rear tire, should I replace both tires with turf tires? I use the tractor around my country home for both field work. Primarily brush hog, scraper blade and some cultivating. As well as lawn mowing and moving things on the "lawn"[this is not a country estate and "lawn" is an all encompassing green collection of plants]. I have a front loader on the tractor. And lastly, what is the recommended air pressure in the air filled rear tire? and should the air pressure in the top one third or so of the liquid filled tire also have the same air pressure? Any and all comments and or answers are appreciated. You guys got this tractor back on her tires when I had an electrical conundrum. So this should be small potatoes. Thanks, Rod

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rod

08-20-2001 14:03:39




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 Re: liquid filled tires? and turf vs field? in reply to rod , 08-19-2001 07:54:25  
Thanks for the info. Saved me buying 2 tires,as I'll stay with the field tires. The balanced weight sounds like the way to go for the loader, so it's off to the RV store for the non-lethal anti-freeze. I now know how to get the liquid out of the tires. However, if I am going to add anti-freeze, how do I add that? Any method that comes immediatly to mind seems like it might take days... Thanks again, Rod.

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Paul

08-20-2001 07:12:02




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 Re: liquid filled tires? and turf vs field? in reply to rod , 08-19-2001 07:54:25  
I have some related questions on tires:
I'm "restoring" an 8N and willend up using it strictly for mowing, scraping snow, and play. I'm doing this for sentimental reasons (I grew up driving one in the 50's and 60's) and for the enjoyment of the project. I don't think I need the weight from the liquid in the rear tires and, in fact, I think the weight might be too much for the yard. In any case, it's not clear to me how one drains the liquid and what you do with it. Also, does anyone have any suggestions on where I should get new tires. I will sooner or later need three -- both front and one rear. The good rear tire is a "Multi-Trac" 11.2-28 on a 10 inch rim, and I would like to find a match for it. Anyone know where to find Multi-Tracs? I also will need a different rim for the tire I need to replace since it's now on an 11 inch rim. Any advice on the above would be appreciated.

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Mike S

08-19-2001 12:38:26




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 Re: liquid filled tires? and turf vs field? in reply to rod , 08-19-2001 07:54:25  
I have both sets of tires for my NAA. the ag tires came with liquid in them, just water so could not use in winter, which I didn't plan on doing anyway. But I drained the water out when I changed to the turf tires so they would be easier to move. I took the tire valve completely out, the turned the tire so that the valve was at the bottom. since it was creating a vacuum as the water drained, the flow would get real slow, so I would hit it with the air hose and build up pressure and the water would really stream out. Didn't take long at all. I put the turf tires on mostly for mowing purposes, but I have been surprised how much digging and such I could do with them before they would lose traction. If you do use fluid, put the same amount in each tire. I bought some of that RV antifreeze that is not poisonous for when I decide to refill the ag tires when I use them.

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Mike OH

08-19-2001 08:49:09




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 Re: liquid filled tires? and turf vs field? in reply to rod , 08-19-2001 07:54:25  
Rod, I like to keep about 12 pounds of air in my rear tires. Are the tires cutting into your lawn now? If not, seeing as how your left tire is like new, I think I would replace the right one with the same type of tire. As far as being liquid filled, I think if I didn't use the loader much, I would remove the liquid and If I needed more weight when using the loader, just mount the scraper or hog to the three point for additional weight. Funny thing when I drained my rear tire (only one was loaded) it took over 6 hours for it to drain and there is still some liquid in it. So if you do drain it, be prepared to wait.

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tlak

08-19-2001 08:42:36




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 Re: liquid filled tires? and turf vs field? in reply to rod , 08-19-2001 07:54:25  
Unless you have wheel weights or other rear weights the filled tire is your counter balance for your loader.



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Paul8n

08-19-2001 08:39:39




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 Re: liquid filled tires? and turf vs field? in reply to rod , 08-19-2001 07:54:25  
I also have a front end loader and having rear ag tires filled are mandatory. Hope this helps.



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Ed Gooding (VA)

08-19-2001 08:34:39




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 Re: liquid filled tires? and turf vs field? in reply to rod , 08-19-2001 07:54:25  
Hi Rod. The following chart should help answer some of your questions:

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Personally, I would not want to have one tire weighing that much more than the other. You can see from the chart how much more one side weighs than the other when it is loaded.

Using Calcium Chloride will give you the most weight, but it is also highly corrosive. If you detect a leak in your inner tube, fix it immediately or your wheels will start rusting right away. Some folks are using used anti-freeze mix, which doesn't give you as much weight as the CaCl combo, but also doesn't have the potential to rust out your wheels. The anti-freeze has its drawbacks, especially if you have dogs. They love the taste and it will cause a very painful death if they ingest it.

Given how you use your tractor, I would not go with turf tires. You give up traction, and you'll need it for what you are doing. Field tires that are loaded (with something) will give you adequate traction for what you say you want to do. You may have to add chains for snow removal or mud work. Chains and loaded tires will help you get through a lot of nasty stuff.

Hope this helps..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798

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radley

08-19-2001 16:15:58




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 Re: Re: liquid filled tires? and turf vs field? in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 08-19-2001 08:34:39  
You may want to try the Non-toxic RV anti-freeze that campers use. It won't hurt the dog and it won't rust out your rims.



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