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48-8N

10-07-2001 05:52:29




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during wheel removal I knocked the valve off a rim and found out it was loaded. lost a lot of liquid. The valve has an o-ring and secures to a fitting on the rim so I'm assuming there is no tube. Looks like the plastic retaining ring broke and the fitting blew out. Not sure what the fluid is, it's a dirty white. If it's CaCl, can I mix windshield washer fluid with it? Also when refilling, I can purge the air until the fluid level gets to the fitting level but what do I do after that? appreciate any advice

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Pete

10-07-2001 18:05:22




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 Re: loaded tires in reply to 48-8N, 10-07-2001 05:52:29  
48, Sounds like calcium/water to me, if it is, and you level was high enoung(always covering the rim) you're better off if there was no tube; calcium/water won't corrode metal until air mixes with it, tubes allow a little condensation to pass through them due to temp changes and mix with lots of air, when kept at a proper level without a tube, air never gets to come in contact with the inside of the rim.
Don't mix it with windshield washer fluid, just dump it(it doesnt hurt the environment), hose off your rim, and refill with your choice of fill. We use winter formula windshield washer fluid (cheapest place by far to buy it is by the gallon at Wal-Mart). Get a garden hose, a 55 gallon drum, a water valve at NAPA, tell 'em what you are doing, they stock 'em, a cheap submersible pump and let rip. If you use tubes the displaced air will work itself out around the valve stem, if not, be sure to quit pumping every few gallons and bleed the relief valve on you water valve to let the air out. About 25-26 galllons per tire on 12.4x28, and add an 8oz bottle of waterbed conditioner to prevent algea and get back to work! Stop bt NAPA and buy a couple tire irons, and after ya break the beads, tires are easy. Best solution for breaking beads is to have a Farmall with a "fast hitch" around, back over the tire and put the drawbar down next to the rim, "bam" broken bead! Pete

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mike

10-07-2001 08:22:11




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 Re: loaded tires in reply to 48-8N, 10-07-2001 05:52:29  
If it is cacl, it's very caustic. wash it off everything it touches. It will ruin your shoes.
don't get it in your eyes. Mine have tubes, and the"old style" two piece valve assy. Miller tire has both kinds of valves. Perhaps calling a tire guy would be helpful. I did, and am glad i did.
mike



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Snowplow

10-07-2001 08:52:02




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 Re: Re: loaded tires in reply to mike , 10-07-2001 08:22:11  
I agree that it is most likely calcium fill. You better hope that you had a tube or else your rim is probably just about shot from the CA. My advice is to call a tire place and let them deal with the mess. They can handle it much better than you can (generally). Tires are real knuckle busters. You are probably going to want to rinse the rim off real good before a new tube goes in. Depending on damage you might even want to sandblast and prime the inside. A tire guy can also refill with CA for you. Normally they reuse the old stuff but in your case it is too late for that. You may want them to replace the other tube while they are there.

Why would you want to use wind shield wiper fluid? If your looking for a safer antifreeze use low tox antifreeze mixed with water. I would put at least 3 gallons in each tire. 50-50 in a real cold climate. And if it leaks it wont rust out your rims.

Good luck!

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Jake

10-07-2001 22:39:30




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 Re: Re: Re: loaded tires in reply to Snowplow, 10-07-2001 08:52:02  
That plastic ring was attached to the first half of the valve stem which was has a larger hole, the 2nd half screws into that[w/o ring seal] and holds the schrader valve. By the ring still being there the tube should not be leaking internally but get that chloride out and the metal rim attended to or be ready to get a new rim. Nobody puts chloride in a tire without a tube, you would be chasing the tire after it passes you up.

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48-8n

10-08-2001 09:25:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: loaded tires in reply to Jake, 10-07-2001 22:39:30  
Thanks for the advice, on closer inspection it looks as if there is a tube. gonna see if there is a local tire place that can repair/refill



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