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Old Fart

10-29-2001 15:32:20




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When I found my 2N had a cracked block I was able to get a wreck which had a good block. HOWEVER, this block does not have a Ford serial #., I does have a casting # D1341. on the block right where the starter goes in. Also it has had a fuel pump at some time on the side of the block where the governor would go, the camshaft also has a cam on it to drive this fuel pump. I was told the engine may have come from a Deerborne Pull type combine. Anyone have any ideas or comments on this odd ball.

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Lester

10-30-2001 18:18:16




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 Re: Curious Ford Engine in reply to Old Fart, 10-29-2001 15:32:20  
That motor proably was in a light delievery Ford truck during the war, would have had the fuel tank mounted low so would have needed to adapt to the regular truck fuel pump, tractor motor saved material for the war, Industerial uses would have been mounted same as on the tractor, talk to you later Young Fart



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Barnstormer

10-30-2001 04:15:25




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 Re: Curious Ford Engine in reply to Old Fart, 10-29-2001 15:32:20  
The Dearborn combine that we had had it's own engine. It was a magneto system and crank start. Fuel delivery was gravity, just like an N, with an updraft carburator, no fuel pump. Yours may be a later version. I don't know about it.



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Tom WY

10-29-2001 22:25:46




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 Re: Curious Ford Engine in reply to Old Fart, 10-29-2001 15:32:20  
I dont know on "old" stuff, but since at least 1960 the "D1"---- would signify a 1971 Ford casting. ???



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JimNC

10-29-2001 15:48:39




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 Re: Curious Ford Engine in reply to Old Fart, 10-29-2001 15:32:20  
Howdy Old Fart,


These Ford engines were used in power units, trucks, and other industrial equipment. So it could have came out of anything. I think most N camshafts have the lobe that could drive a fuel pump, but the block hole for it is not machined out. If you look on your old block you should see where it is.

Jim



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old fart

10-29-2001 17:06:04




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 Re: Re: Curious Ford Engine in reply to JimNC, 10-29-2001 15:48:39  
Your right Jim the old block does have the same flat area for the fuel pump mounting, but the old cam shaft doesn't have the cam lobe. I was wondering if the D in the casting number caould refer to Deerborne. I can't find anything on Deerborne Combines.



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I doubt that . . . Dell (WAA)

10-29-2001 23:01:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Curious Ford Engine in reply to old fart, 10-29-2001 17:06:04  
Old F..... .....Dearborn was the marketing arm for Ford Tractors. Dearborn contracted with many OEM farm implement manufactures to sell their implement under the Dearborn Label. Kinda like real Levi's being sold as J C Penneys or Sears jeans.

Re-labeling is commonplace everywhere in the automobile marketplace, General Motors is a major re-labeler. And surprizingly enuff even in the tractor market today. For example John Deere 760 compact tractor is really a Yahama.

Stands to reason, if'n the combine needed more power than the N-Tractor PTO could provide, (most likely case) then why shouldn't Ford Industrial Engines provide the powerplant for a Ford product? That is why there are N-Industrial engines powering irrigation pumps, oilwell pumps, emergeny electrical generators, combines, corn pickers, corn dryer blowers. And that is why there are Funk 6 cylinder N-Tractor conversions and why there are Funk flathead V-8 N-Tractors that amaizes everyone today.

The D on your engine block casting number has NOTHING to do with Dearborn..... ..Dell

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I don't know. Maybe some of these more seasoned N'ers can help.

10-29-2001 19:36:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Curious Ford Engine in reply to old fart, 10-29-2001 17:06:04  



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