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Hydraulic control unit adjustment question. (Long)

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Roger S

10-31-2001 17:27:25




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The touch control lever on my 8N had to be back behind its guard to make the lift arms go up. Thus, I removed the hydraulic control unit to adjust it. The “position control pin” and the “control arm” were both bent. I replaced the position control pin, and straightened the control arm. I also checked the length of the “constant draft control spring”, and adjusted the “position control spring” to the specified 1 29/32 inches.

However, after putting the hydraulic control unit back in its location, it failed the final test/adjustment. I have copied the steps from my August 18, 1948 operator’s manual below. Regardless of the position of my quadrant support plate, I cannot get the valve completely open as directed in step 7a. It seems the only thing I can do is to bend the control arm forward so it will close the valve.

Am I missing something? Is the something else I should change to get the valve to completely open?

From the Operator's Manual:

(6) Install the hydraulic unit on the tractor as outlined in section 382, but do not install the inspection plate. (7) Place the position control lever in the forward position. Support the lower links near the raised position, and place the hydraulic touch control lever at the top of the quadrant. Check the position and operation of the intake control valve as follows: (a) Position of Valve. The valve should be completely open when the hydraulic touch control lever is at the top of the quadrant. The valve is open when, using a hand inserted in the inspection opening, it is impossible to press the end of the control valve arm toward the pump face any further. (b) Operation of Valve. Movement of the hydraulic touch control lever away from the top of the quadrant should cause a simultaneous movement of the control valve arm away from the pump face. Movement of the control valve arm should begin at the start of movement of the hydraulic touch control lever. There is only one position in which the quadrant support plate can be located where both of the above conditions will be met. To find this position, slightly loosen the four cap screws that support the quadrant. Hold the hydraulic touch control lever at the top of the quadrant and gently tap the quadrant support plate forward or backward until both of the above requirements are fulfilled.

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ZANE

11-01-2001 05:14:02




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 Re: Hydraulic control unit adjustment question. (Long) in reply to Roger S, 10-31-2001 17:27:25  
It just ain't possible to adjust the lift linkage on the 8N Ford unless you have a jig to use so that the end of the control rod ends up in the right position. Measuring parts just won't cut it when all the parts are not still the same shape and measurement that they were when new about 50 years ago. It appears you have just learned this to be true!

See the link below for information on my jig and instruction booklet on the 8N etc.

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Roger S

11-01-2001 17:20:04




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 Re: Re: Hydraulic control unit adjustment question. (Long) in reply to ZANE, 11-01-2001 05:14:02  
"It just ain't possible to adjust the lift linkage on the 8N Ford unless you have a jig..."

Now Zane, that sounds like a challenge that I'm up to. I'll let you know how I do.



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ZANE

11-01-2001 19:37:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Hydraulic control unit adjustment question. (Long) in reply to Roger S, 11-01-2001 17:20:04  
Come to think of it that might have been a little too profound a remark! Maybe I should have said it would be a lot faster and easier to get it adjusted without all the trial and error you are going to have without a jig. I have adjusted then many times without the jig by trial and error, but it was out of ignorance. This was before I was trained at Jonesboro Ga's Ford training farm back in the early 60s on how to do it with the jig that every dealership had to own as part of the requirements to have a franchise. We had one in the shop but I didn't have a clue what it was for until I attended the training session on the lift.
Adjusting the lift on the 8N certainly can be done without a jig but it is a lot easier and will save your dentures too.(gritting of the teeth)

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Roger S

11-02-2001 16:13:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Hydraulic control unit adjustment question. (Long) in reply to ZANE, 11-01-2001 19:37:12  
How's this procedure Zane? Any comments would be welcome.



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Jerry Cummings (NH)

10-31-2001 18:30:48




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 Re: Hydraulic control unit adjustment question. (Long) in reply to Roger S, 10-31-2001 17:27:25  
I kind of gave up on the manual when it came to adjusting the lift cover and went with Zane's jig. He ships the jig with documentation that has helpful hints about things to check that the manual doesn't talk about that'd keep one from getting the proper adjustment.



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