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68 Mag

11-05-2001 11:03:33




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Well, as many of you know, my 8N's serial number is painted over. I have no clue what it is, and I'm not quite sure about how to remove the paint without removing the number. I've ruled out a grinder with wire brush or sandblasting. But anyways, what other characteristics can I look for to help me determine the year? It doesnt have a proofmeter.

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68 Mag




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roperboy

11-05-2001 17:02:43




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 Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to 68 Mag, 11-05-2001 11:03:33  
use aircraft paint stripper. available at most auto parts stores. dont forget your gloves and saftey glasses.



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Don (NC)

11-05-2001 12:37:25




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 Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to 68 Mag, 11-05-2001 11:03:33  
Here's some info I posted before that should help you zero in on the age of your N. This relates to the "casting" dates that are cast into various parts of the cast iron parts of the tractor and hydraulic pump....

One of the recent posts sent me back to my notes from the rebuild of my '50 8N two years ago. Here's the casting dates information that I recorded then. The legend for the code is, as I understand it, like this:

Month=A (Jan), B (Feb), etc...through letter L. Day = one or two digit number. Year = one digit number.

But some of the codes are in the mm/dd/yy format.

So, in my case, the number on the head, A190, is Jan. 19, 1950.

Here's what I found:

Head A190 (between the #2 and #3 plug holes). Oil pan A250 (bottom). Hydraulic pump 2/7/50 (bottom) Tranny case B30 (right side, forward, low). Right axle housing 1-13-50. Rear end housing B30 (left side under PTO shaft, upside down). Engine B20, on starter bump out.

This is serial # 257591. The range is Jan 13 to Feb 7, a pretty tight grouping.

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68 Mag

11-05-2001 13:12:55




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 Re: Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to Don (NC), 11-05-2001 12:37:25  
Ok, I have a question. If I am standing, facing the tractor from the front. On the right rear axle housing, there is a number. Is it just a part number, or does it indicate something?



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BTW...Don (NC)

11-05-2001 13:29:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to 68 Mag, 11-05-2001 13:12:55  
It's common practice to define right and left as you sit on the tractor seat. So even if you meant the left side (from the seat), there is also a casting date on my axle trumpet.



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Don (NC)

11-05-2001 13:26:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to 68 Mag, 11-05-2001 13:12:55  
My 8N has a casting date on the right rear axle, in the mm/dd/yy format. What's the number?



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68 Mag

11-05-2001 16:52:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to Don (NC), 11-05-2001 13:26:24  
The number is 8N-4D1282. Can anyone tell me what this means?



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Ed Gooding (VA)

11-05-2001 11:21:29




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 Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to 68 Mag, 11-05-2001 11:03:33  
Forum member John Smith has a very informative page on his N website, devoted to identifying the various models of N's. You can check it out by clicking here.

Hope this helps..... ..... .Ed
'52 8N475798



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68 Mag

11-05-2001 11:32:34




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 Re: Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 11-05-2001 11:21:29  
Thanks Ed. I now know it's pre- 1950. I could pinpoint it more if I had it here to look at, but ah well.



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Dell (WA)

11-05-2001 11:13:52




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 Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to 68 Mag, 11-05-2001 11:03:33  
68 Mag..... .there are many chemical paint removers out there that work quite well and does not damage the underlying metal. ZANE recommends "oven cleaner" with a little bit of corn starch to hold it in place. Use rubber gloves and scrub brush and safety glasses.

You realize that most engine s/n's are handstamped and faint to begin with..... .Dell



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68 Mag

11-05-2001 11:17:13




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 Re: Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to Dell (WA), 11-05-2001 11:13:52  
Hmmm. I realized they were mostly hand stamped, thats why I was leary of any type of blasting/ abrasive. I may try some of Ace Hardware's 'Extra Strength Stripper'.



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steve19438

11-05-2001 11:26:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Identifying an 8N in reply to 68 Mag, 11-05-2001 11:17:13  
once you have the paint off brush the number with "white out", wipe off the excess and you should be able to read the ser. num. quite easily.



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