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Nolan

04-12-2000 04:00:05

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After the pinning incident I described previously, my wife and I have been having some very serious conversations about safety around here, and on the tractor. I am a clutz, and do manage to get myself in a jam fairly regularly. Not as much as I used to, but I don't think I'll ever be nominated for #1 safety guru either. I've also been so independent all my life that the notion of calling for help often never occurrs to me.

We've discussed having her come out and simply check on me more often, carrying a cell phone, a whistle, a canned air horn and such. All of which have good points, and bad points. None of which have exactly struck either of us as being the right answer.

I think my wife and I are missing something here, and I'd like to hear what you folks do or use or practice. Not only for safe tractoring, as in not mowing across steep hills, but also to summon help when you need it.

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Chuck (CA)

04-13-2000 21:36:12

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

I really think the two-way is the answer. Accidents do happen and of course, if they were predictable, there wouldn't be any accidents. You can clip a two-way on your bib, your belt, or tape the thing onto your wrist. Like the other posts said, you can also use them at the fair, the mall, or even skiing. (Another good place for accidents.)
Just get one with a loud, distinctive ring, so if Mama wants to page you, you can hear it over the tractor noise. Some of 'em have a range of over 2 miles.
Just my humble opinion.
Chuck

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Reach down there...

04-12-2000 22:59:13

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

All of 'ya- Reach down there where the sun don't shine and pull your head out!!!

If you are gonna go out and do something stupid, please don't be a before hand cry baby. Most of these posts come off as fuel for the feminazi rhetoric we are now suffering. Quit feeding that type of thinking.

If you worry that your old lady sees you as a "double indeminity opportunity", you are telling yourself something about yourself. Think about the rest of your life and what you have set up as to relationships.

Leave things alone and Darwin's Law of Natural Selection will take care of all this. Just keep a smile, IHank

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While you're at it!!

04-13-2000 14:56:27

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Re: Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Reach down there..., 04-12-2000 22:59:13

A reality check might be the best thing for you. A little dry humor about a serious issue such as safety will probably explode into a huge issue of feminazi rhetoric as you put it. Give me a break and go get some fresh air!!!!

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Nolan

04-13-2000 04:02:10

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Re: Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Reach down there..., 04-12-2000 22:59:13

Actually, it's a theory, not a law, and it has nothing to do with accidents, it's about breeding rates. The clutz who spawns more children then the celebate safety fanatic wins.

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04-12-2000 17:32:03

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

I like the cell phone myself. They can be programmed to call specific numbers with just a couple of buttons, including the 911 hot key. I always carry mine when working in the woods, tractoring, or hunting. I tell my wife before I go out that I will call her every 2 hours (4 hours when hunting), and that if she doesn't hear from me to call me. If I don't answer she knows where to quickly come looking for me with a friend. The one lousy time I forgot the phone, guess who cut his leg with the chain saw. It wasn't pretty, and the whole time I was hobbling several hundred yards back to my truck while trying to compress the wound and driving myself to the hospital all I could think of was how stupid I was not to just go back for the phone before I started cutting that morning. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. I'm not the brightest guy in the world, but I don't have to learn the same lesson twice. Whenever I need a reminder to slow down and think safety, I just look at the big scar on my thigh and it all becomes crystal clear. Of course, the best solution is to have another person there with you who has a cell phone, but all too often that option isn't there.

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tlak

04-14-2000 05:29:42

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Re: Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to KW, 04-12-2000 17:32:03

A pair of chain saw pants might be an ideal

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04-15-2000 18:35:08

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Re: Re: Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to tlak, 04-14-2000 05:29:42

That's for certain. As a matter of fact, I picked up a pair of kevlar chaps 2 days after when I could hobble around a little better. Kind of like closing the barn door after the horse got out, but I use them faithfully now, even for short jobs.

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EricG.NH

04-12-2000 10:37:15

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

There is no right answer. They would all help give a person another option. That said, the first and best defense is that big melon shaped thing on our shoulders. Sounds like that little voice inside you told you it was risky at the start. Holding the tractor back by the rubber tire cleat? We should all listen to and respect that inner voice and above all think! Be safe and smart out there y'all,
Eric

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Is your wife really the answer????

04-12-2000 08:48:23

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

I'm afraid my wife might see this as her opportunity to finish me off for the insurance money!! I can just see me pinned under that N and sucking those last few breaths when she arrives to jam the thing in reverse to make sure it gets me real good!!! Double endemnity on accidents will be her first thought when she arrives on the scene!!!

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Randall(AL)

04-12-2000 08:42:03

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

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Zed-MD

04-12-2000 07:54:49

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

Nolan,

I don't do enough tractoring to be worried when I am on the N. But for the past several years I have carried my cell phone in the woods when I am hunting. Now that the new personal radios are reasonable my son and I both carry them when hunting together. I think they are the best thing since sliced bread. I think I have convinced the wife to start using them at the mall and especially craft shows and auctions.

From your post I assume you were at the Young Farmers Auction. I was there off & on. I always leave auctions wishing I had bid. I would have like to have had the Bush Hog mower that was in the corner. O'well maybe next time.

Sam

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hey busdriver

04-12-2000 22:10:17

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Re: Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Zed-MD, 04-12-2000 07:54:49

My opinion of cell phones are not very high, I find people using them when they are not needed, especially when driving they seem to pay more attention to the phones than the driving which makes everyone have to endlessly watch out for the person using these phones. People use them on my bus and are annoying to have to listen to the ringing of these phones, they also forget the damn phones on my bus and then try phoning and expecting me to answer and put all other passengers at risk when they were the careless one's leaving them behind. I really don't think they would be that helpful when working around machinery either as I'm sure they would be just out of reach when you are pinned. My opinion would be self safety wise and holler like hell if you need help. But always safety first.
Stan

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JamesC.

04-12-2000 06:56:29

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

One of the problems with a radio is that someone has to listen to the other end. My other hobby is ham radio and I know that it is difficult to find someone listening nearby. Of course I can contact someone 25 miles away but I don't want the fire trucks comming when I pinched my fingers.

Some options are:
Place a radio in the house (kitchen) and turn the volumen up so it can be heard all over the house. Your wife will not carry the radio with her. I know, they have other things on their mind and we are just playing with our toys.

Put a horn on the tractor with push buttons at various places. Of course you may not be able to reach the buttons if you are pinned to a tree.

There are these safety alert devices that you can wear or something like a key chain car alarm. It will go with a horn on the tractor.

A few nights ago my 8 year old girl had a nightmare that I was pinned under the tractor. Don't know where she heard that it can happen. I will never take chances again.

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Ken (MO)

04-12-2000 08:28:57

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Re: Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to JamesC., 04-12-2000 06:56:29

One of the methods we use is to progam my bearcat scanner to monitor the frequency of the radios. Saves on batteries since the bearcat has a rechargeable Ni-Cad pack that works even while recharging.

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Alex Dula

04-12-2000 05:40:15

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

We bought three of the 14 channel radios at Walmart for about $30 a piece. There are good for 2 miles in the woods and even in neighborhood with houses all around.

Alex

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Ken (MO)

04-12-2000 05:25:16

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

When I first moved to my place (as a single guy) I carried a handheld cell phone all the time. My folks (45 minutes away in the city) were worried about tractor accidents, chainsaw accidents, etc. Once I got married, I stopped carrying the cell phone but my wife and I still had need to communicate while I was out on the property. I bought the FRS single channel radios the first year they came out from Radio Shack ($75 each) and it was the best investment I could have made. With the prices dropping on them each year you can get a good pair of dual channel radios for the price I paid for one unit. We are considering getting another pair for when father/father-in-law come down so we can all stay in touch.
Make sure you get a good belt clip/belt pouch for the radio you carry. It's no good to you if it falls out of your pocket while you are mowing the pasture (experience talking).

Ken

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Dave (PA)

04-12-2000 05:05:32

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

I'll second the two-way radio idea. I acquired a pair of good FRS (family radio service) units and they come in quite handy, plus give us the peace of mind that I can summon my better half if I get in a jam. We've tested them through a half-mile of woods and they work strong and clear. Nice to have when I'm hunting by myself behind the house, when we go shopping and I want to look at tools while she looks for clothes, or when we go to the fair and she admires horses while I look for Ns. I'd rather use a two-way radio that gives me instant communication than a cell phone I have to dial. Of course, for long distances or if no one is listening on the other end, the two-way radio is useless.

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tlak

04-12-2000 05:25:03

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Re: Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Dave (PA), 04-12-2000 05:05:32

We fiquered on the 2ways too. what they need to make is one with a deadman switch. Also maybe it would call 911 instead of just your house, like the Ive fallen and cant get up commercials. Alot of times when you hear about a roll over its when the person doesnt show up somewhere the next day that they search for them. Was this person alive the first 6-10 hrs.

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Ed Gooding (VA)

04-12-2000 04:36:06

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Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Nolan, 04-12-2000 04:00:05

Hi Nolan: Cell phone may be the best bet, IF you get good reception where you live. I don't, unless I go to one spot on my back deck, stand on one leg, lean over, etc. I've been thinking about those two-way radios that you can buy at Northern Tools for this, and for using when say I'm working under the house and need my wife to switch this on, or tap on this, etc. They're pretty small and have a good range for stuff like this.

fwiw..... ..Ed
'52 8N475798

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tlak

04-12-2000 06:22:43

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Re: Re: Getting help when you're hurt or in trouble in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 04-12-2000 04:36:06

Now your getting into a whole different accident catergory. Headline; Man falls off deck while standing on one leg leaning over talking on cell phone.

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