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Problems Draining Fluids

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Paul B

11-23-2001 06:40:40




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I am getting ready to try and start my 9N for the first time since I bought it.
While draining the gear oil/hydraulic fluid two things happened.
#1. A lot of water came out first. This tractor has sat in a parking lot uncovered for at least 2 years. Where did this water get in from? What do I need to replace to stop it from happening again.

#2. When I pulled the plug underneath the shift lever, I reached my finger into the hole and felt a lot of sludge. I decided I better clean out the compartment and removed the 8 bolts holding the plate on. I can slide the plate a little bit forward but I thought it would just drop off. What is holding that bottom plate on?

The rain just started in Middle Georgia, so my hopes of starting her up today are slim. I know I don't want to crank her if she's got a bunch of nasty stuff in her belly.

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Claus

11-23-2001 07:19:35




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 Re: Problems Draining Fluids in reply to Paul B, 11-23-2001 06:40:40  
What you think is a plate, is actually the hydraulic pump. It can only be removed by pulling the PTO Shaft first, since that is what drives it.
Happy Motoring
Claus



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bj/8N/mt

11-23-2001 06:46:21




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 Re: Problems Draining Fluids in reply to Paul B, 11-23-2001 06:40:40  
Although some water will get in from condensation the most likely entry point is the transmission shifter boot. They are like three buckos at Ford New Holland.

The easy way to get in to muck out the bottom of the three point is to pull the PTO shaft--four bolt finagle and then you can get in over the two dams if you are willing to get messy.

Your mileage may vary



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Paul Still confused

11-23-2001 07:17:03




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 Re: Re: Problems Draining Fluids in reply to bj/8N/mt, 11-23-2001 06:46:21  
Can you tell me what is holding the flat plate underneath the shift on the tractor. I removed the bolts from the outside.



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Jay 2N

11-23-2001 07:54:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Problems Draining Fluids in reply to Paul Still confused, 11-23-2001 07:17:03  
Hi Paul,not sure but there is not suppose to be a plate under the gear shift,just a drain plug?The plate I think you are talking about is the one Claus has described to you as the Hydraulic Pump,this also has a drain plug.The PTO shaft at the back of the tractor run's through the pump and this is why the pump will not come out,this is not a plate,becareful when removing very heavy.I would put acouple of bolt's back in the pump,go to the back of the tractor,remove 4 bolt's that hold the splined PTO shaft in and pull it slowly out.Once this is removed you will be able to see up inside and really see the crude that has collected over the last 60 year's.When you start digging in this stuff becareful there will sharp piece's in it that stick and cut.Knowledge believe me.Your best bet before you go much further is to do what the good Doctor Dell say's"FO-4 manual cheap getcha one".At the top of the page to your left under "Market Place",Tractor Manual's, is where you can find one.The other place I believe is Just 8N's,don't let the name fool you,they sell 9N and 2N part's and acces. as well.Hope this help's, any more question's just ask.:>) Your friend,Jay 2N

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Paul = Gothca - Thanks for the explanation!

11-23-2001 08:32:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Problems Draining Fluids in reply to Jay 2N, 11-23-2001 07:54:21  
Thanks for the help. It makes sense now.



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P.S. Paul...

11-23-2001 14:56:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Problems Draining Fluids in reply to Paul = Gothca - Thanks for the explanation!, 11-23-2001 08:32:05  
How the water got in,is through the gear shifter itself.There should be a rubber boot that goes down over the base of the gear shift.Cost is between $3.00 to $5.00.Sorry I forgot to tell ya.Jay 2N



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Claus

11-23-2001 07:27:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Problems Draining Fluids in reply to Paul Still confused, 11-23-2001 07:17:03  
If you pull the shaft, put something under the pump since it is quite heavy and you do not want to damage the base of the pump. Do not try to suspend the pump with one bolt as you may break the flange,,, then you have a real expensive mess.
Happy Motoring
Claus



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