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12 volt changeover decrease engine life???

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Pokey

11-25-2001 09:25:26




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I was told that by changing over to a 12 volt system you can decrease the life of your engine. Is this true? Thanks, Pokey




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Norman

11-26-2001 16:39:31




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 Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Pokey, 11-25-2001 09:25:26  
Also,
By using a 12 volt system you can use a typical 12 volt battery charger. You can also jump start her without concerns of frying the coil or condenser with a 12 volt auto, or battery. Everyone has gone to 12 volts for their motors for a reason. Also, what is this nonsense about old six volt cars and motors lasting longer than todays 12 volt ones. I dont think you got over 100,000 miles on much in the old days. Some new cars don't require maintenance for nearly that long. Older is not better.

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Norman

11-26-2001 16:39:02




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 Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Pokey, 11-25-2001 09:25:26  
Also,
By using a 12 volt system you can use a typical 12 volt battery charger. You can also jump start her without concerns of frying the coil or condenser with a 12 volt auto, or battery. Everyone has gone to 12 volts for their motors for a reason. Also, what is this nonsense about old six volt cars and motors lasting longer than todays 12 volt ones. I dont think you got over 100,000 miles on much in the old days. Some new cars don't require maintenance for nearly that long. Older is not better.

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Norman

11-26-2001 16:32:46




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 Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Pokey, 11-25-2001 09:25:26  
Opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one.

There is no reason that changing to a 12 volt system shortens engine life.

I have been a constant companion of 8N's since I was ten years old, I am now 50. Dad bought one when I was ten and I mowed and maintained 66 acres in Ohio with it. I got one when I was married and we bought 6 acres. I helped convert dads to 6 volts in the mid 1960's. I converted mine after a complete rebuild in 1989. It smoked bad when I bought her. I keep Mobil 1 synthetic oil in her and sea foam gas treatment. I do this with all my equipment. Over the years I had helped rebuild dads 8N twice in 30 years of hard use. The second time we got a bad rebuild kit, and worse, it was run without an air cleaner a while which trasted the rings fast.

12 volts is much better for several reasons. Plenty of cold weather cranking power. You can use 12 volt lights that are cheaper and easier to buy. The ignition system on mine are kept at six volts by using a resistor prior to the coil, so this has no affect on the coil resistor, points or plugs. I also recently added a Meyers snow plow which I remanufactured to mount on the front of my 8N. It is a 6 foot unit from a jeep, with a 12 volt pump. So I had a system ready to run the 12 volt lift and power tilt plow. It is awesome and works perfecty. Better than a factory install.

Norman

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raytasch YEP!

11-25-2001 16:12:12




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 Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Pokey, 11-25-2001 09:25:26  
Yep! Sure will! When you install a 12V system your lights will now be bright enough that you can work the tractor day and night. So, if you run the tractor day and night the life of the engine will be shorter. (BG)
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RussMO

11-25-2001 14:50:03




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 Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Pokey, 11-25-2001 09:25:26  

Pokey, Who told you this one..... ...



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Larry

11-25-2001 12:26:26




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 Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Pokey, 11-25-2001 09:25:26  
Yes, there is no doubt that changing from six volts to twelve will decrease engine life.

This is why automobiles today with 12 volt systems don't last nearly as long as cars manufactured prior to 1955 that had six volt systems.

Regards,

L.



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Dan

11-25-2001 20:26:46




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 Re: Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Larry, 11-25-2001 12:26:26  
Questions ..Does that change the oil pressure ?
Does that change the air/fuel mixture ?
Does that change the fan belt tightness ?
Does that change the compression ratio ?
Does that remove any of the rings on the piston s?

ETC. In other words -ask if he is smoking the wrong kind of stuf !



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Larrrrrrrrieeeee

11-25-2001 15:50:19




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 Re: Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Larry, 11-25-2001 12:26:26  
Agreee,,,,re-thunk that one



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11-25-2001 14:40:16




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 Re: Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Larry, 11-25-2001 12:26:26  
You better rethink this one Larry...



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Don (NC)

11-25-2001 14:58:05




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 Re: Re: Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to ???????, 11-25-2001 14:40:16  
I believe Larry was making a little joke there, question mark.



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Larry

11-25-2001 16:39:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Don (NC), 11-25-2001 14:58:05  
Don,

Thanks! Of course it was a joke! I've been accused of a lot of things but never of being stupid.

Amazing that anyone would take my remarks seriously concerning "engine life" but I guess the guys are doing the best that they can.


Kind regards,

Larry



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no . . . Dell (WA)

11-25-2001 10:42:33




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 Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Pokey, 11-25-2001 09:25:26  
Pokey..... ...one of the reasons most convert to 12 volts is that 12 volts on a 6 volt starter really spins the tired, low compression engine faster so its effective compression is raised, thus extending the lifetime before you have to overhaul a wornout engine. And NO, generally speaking, 12 volts on a 6 volt starter does not wear out the starter faster, unless you abuse it by excessive cranking an engine that doesn't want to start, cuz you've got other major problems that need to be dealt with..... ..Dell

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Al(Ca)

11-25-2001 09:52:30




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 Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Pokey, 11-25-2001 09:25:26  
That is a new one to me. I don't see how it could.



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Rusty Jones

11-25-2001 16:16:53




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 Re: Re: 12 volt changeover decrease engine life??? in reply to Al(Ca), 11-25-2001 09:52:30  
I don't know who came up with that story--it won't make the engine wear out any faster, but, if you have any 6 volt light bulbs on the tractor, they'll go to the "Happy hunting ground" faster than you can blink your eyes! We used to hook up 12 volts to our old Fords (30's to 40's) to make them start quicker on cold days. I always carried a jumper cable link, disconnected the cables, set another 6 volt battery on the fender, connected the 2 together, (plus to minus) and got it started, then unhooked the 2nd. battery, hooked the cable back to 6 volts, and drove on from there. Leaving the lights off, of course, while on 12 v. Made those cranky old cars start right up! Rusty Jones

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