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OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5

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68 Mag

12-12-2001 10:00:40




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Hi all. I need information on a 1978 Lincoln Mark 5. It was my grandfathers, and after he passed on, my mother got it. Sadly, around '93, it got parked. Now I want to restore it. The things I have noticed it needs are listed below, I want to know how much work and money it would be to replace all this stuff.

The canvas style roof caved in.

The drivers side window is busted.

The interior has about 10 years worth of water damage.


I'm not sure about the engine, because I dont know a lot about cars. But if anyone could help me, it would be very appreciated.

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bob ny

12-13-2001 09:54:15




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
if it was my grandfathers car and had sentimental value i would find aparts car and put both together as one. it would end being the cheapest way out.



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Mike S

12-12-2001 15:45:16




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
I've got the same problem. I have a 55 Olds Holiday that has been in storage for at least 10 years. Paint is terrible. Does not have water damage, but all the tires are down. My Dad had it and back when he first bought it, from a retired Ga Tech professor, in 1983 or so, I completely redid all of the brakes, linings, shoes, lines, master cylinder, wheel cylinders and bearings so I was comfortable that it could stop when needed. It ran great til he parked it and hasn't moved since. I want to fix it up, but my wife thinks it would be a waste of time and mucho money. I kinda would like to keep it cause I had one like it when I was in college in the 60s. Tough call. Maybe when I sell my two Mustangs, I'll tackle it. In your case, I would at least try to get the engine cranked. Sometimes they surprise you and fire right up with little or no effort. But sometimes not.

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Chuck (CA)

12-12-2001 16:56:39




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 Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to Mike S, 12-12-2001 15:45:16  
I don't know, Mike. That's a pretty neat car. Is it a 2 door or 4 door? Check out the link below.

Chuck (CA)



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That is one sweet looking Olds...

12-13-2001 10:38:49




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 Re: Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to Chuck (CA), 12-12-2001 16:56:39  
...you might want to think about it Mike!



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Mike S

12-13-2001 04:09:58




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 Re: Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to Chuck (CA), 12-12-2001 16:56:39  
That is what she looks like, except two-tone green instead of blue. I like those whitewalls. Maybe I will fix it up. Just not any time soon. Thanks for the link.



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heybusdriver

12-12-2001 23:04:09




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 Re: Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to Chuck (CA), 12-12-2001 16:56:39  
That sure is a beauty, my brother had one in 1960,they were a good car and classy. There is one driving around here that I see once every month or two in a two tone blue. Sure a nice car.
Stan



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goinNutts

12-12-2001 14:00:16




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
like the rest of them have stated its a BIG job and the car your talkin about will never be a classic, you have your heart in the right place but man is that gonna be a money pit. I was reading all the posts and the last one I saw was on the brakes and wiring that is going to be the killer, the sitting really rusts these things fast, lines will all have to be replaced with out a doubt, then ya gotta think about the liners and the drums,, rotors are probably shot as well as the calipers,,,, it is asking for a lot of attention, and lots of time,,, then the enormous engine was nice for cruisin when gas was 50-60 cents a gallon, but figure 7-10 mpg downhill with a good tail wind and your pockets dont go that deep at 125++ a gallon//// anyway,, decide what ya want and good luck with your decision, just take it from experience BE SURE TO REPLACE ALLLLL LLLLL L THE LINES ,, it is not fun going down a hill and realize the one line ya thought was good was not!!!! if ya have time ask me how I know... it aint fun,,,,, but restoring a vehicle is a lot of fun and really relaxing .. I am in the process of restoring a 1970 c20 chevy tow truck, with the original chase truck body from weld built, it was one of the first that I know of factory towtrucks that the boom fit in the bed,,, sharp lookin, lots of sentamental value,,, classic i dont know... when I'm done will I sell it prob not,,, my 9 year old will inherit it... he enjoys being with dad now ,,,,, so follow your heart but think hard about it first,,,, after ya start the money will never be recovered.... my 2 cents,, but it usually aint worth that much, {i get change) Pat

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JeffCT

12-12-2001 12:53:57




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
I have a 78 Mark V with 58,000 miles on it. And nope they aren't worth it nor will it be worth big bucks when your done. If you ARE going to restore yours plan to spend a large amount of money in the process. And if your going "cruisin" when you're done save up some money for fuel 'cause these big land barges guzzle it fast! I agree with DavidO. Part it out. Then you can buy something you really want. You might check out the attached hot rod site if you do part it out.

Good luck whichever path you choose, Jeff

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Just a Side Note...Chuck (CA)

12-12-2001 12:42:51




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
First of all, think of it as a REALLY big, REALLY expensive tractor. If the sentiment is there as well as the funds, then I say go for it, but if it belonging to your grandfather is not that big of a deal, then I'd say yank the drivetrain and toss the body.

Now then; I've been quietly following your posts for awhile and have to say that you sound like a mighty fine young man. Your parents should be proud. It kind of surprises me that you would want to hang around a much of us old f@rts, but if you're an example of our future leaders, than I think this country is going to be just fine.
Kepp following the same path you're on now.

Chuck (CA)

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Dan 2N

12-12-2001 11:49:52




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
Buddy glad you have the car, it is worth redoing. You can spend the amount you wish on restoration.Here is two webs that deal in this car,take a looksee. I have Gravelys,50 GMG, 45-2N and other toys www.bakersauto.com www.lincolnpartsintl.com free parts catalog



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Old George

12-12-2001 11:27:10




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
I vote with the rest of the gang. If it was a rare classic(it aint) that would be one thing. You can find nice, old, big cars relativly cheap for what it would cost to restore. Check the link below. Not Lincolns but Chryslers, the one in front listing for $1850. and the light green one behind for $1000. Think about it! FWIW

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bj/8N/mt

12-12-2001 10:58:47




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
Count me in the parade with Claus
If you have decent sheet metal to start with you can work up the mechanicals but if the cosmetics are that bad you are going to put two fortunes into the thing before you make a driver

YOur mileage may vary



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Claus

12-12-2001 10:19:25




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
I hate to poop on your parade, but forgeddaboudid.
If you have to ask, then you cannot aford it.
Happy Motoring
Claus



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68 Mag

12-12-2001 10:22:18




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 Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to Claus, 12-12-2001 10:19:25  
Dang, you remind me of all the mechanics around here who told me to give up. 'Course, they said the same thing to my dad when he was rebuilding a '72 Harley Shovelhead chopper...Let me find a picture of it...Looks nice...



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DaBrow

12-12-2001 13:51:01




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 Re: Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:22:18  
A Shovel is ALWAYS worth restoring...DaBrow.



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bjt

12-12-2001 14:36:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to DaBrow, 12-12-2001 13:51:01  
DaBrow - Let me clarify.... I meant that 68 Mag shouldn't bother to find and post the picture of the Shovel. It's been my experience that in these dark times of Japanese look-alike bikes and brand "M" and "K" asian tractors, few people appreciate old American Iron anymore - particularly Shovelheads. Even my wife hates mine, but she likes the 8N.



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DaBrow

12-13-2001 19:20:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to bjt, 12-12-2001 14:36:52  
Now I see where you were headed. My wife likes my Harley {85 FLHS} more than my 8N or 660...DaBrow



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bjt

12-12-2001 10:58:52




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 Re: Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:22:18  
Don't bother 68 Mag, there are probably fewer people that understand and love Shovelheads than old tractors :-).

The essential difference between restoring your tractor or an old Harley and a '78 Lincon is that no matter how much $$ you pour into the Lincon, it will never be worth anything. This fact can work in your favor if you've got a sentimental attachment to it and want to proceed with a restoration anyway. There are others out there who love their '78 Lincons and have kept them in great shape. You can get a really good, complete donor car for next to nothing. In addition, the 390 V8 and C4 or C6 three speed automatic transmission you've got were put into hundreds of thousands of other Ford and Lincon cars and trucks, so parts are plentiful.

Don't give up, but be realistic about your goals and motivation before you waste good tractor hobby money on an old but far from classic car :-).

bjt

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DavidO

12-12-2001 11:44:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to bjt, 12-12-2001 10:58:52  
I agree with the others. It is not worth restoring; however, if it is all original, it should have a 460 CID engine and C6 transmission. Since it is after 1974, it will have the low compression heads (about 275 hp vs 360 hp for the older heads), but it would still make a good engine and trans for an old pick up truck, etc. Might be worth trying to sell engine, tranny,and highly sought after 9" Ford rear end. Probably has rear disk brakes on it too.

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bjt

12-12-2001 12:05:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to DavidO, 12-12-2001 11:44:31  
Excellent points, DavidO!

I stand corrected, it should be a 460 and, in addition to the low compression pistons/heads, it will have a full load of primitive, useless, heavy, power stealing emission control equipment as well :-(. Parts are still available, but more expensive than for the 390. The rear disc brakes were optional equipment (I think), but if you've got 'em, you've got a *highly* desireable rear end. Save it for the '40 Ford coupe you'll eventually want if you remain interested in Ford cars :-).
bjt

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Danny in CO

12-12-2001 10:11:17




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 Re: OT- Not an N, but a Lincoln Mark 5 in reply to 68 Mag, 12-12-2001 10:00:40  
68 Mag,

Some things to look for on a car that has sat for years is the brakes may not work and may need wheel cylinders and master cylinder; engine may be frozen; wiring could be bad (eaten by mice); air conditioning bad; and wheel bearings bad.

Most moving parts on cars need lubrication. When it sets up for years, all the lubrication goes away and thing seize up. You may get lucky, but be prepared for a lot of work. You just never know until you get into it.

Danny

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