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Sal

12-20-2001 19:10:30

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I am replacing my front tires/rims in the morning.

I am planning on using Never Seez on the threads.

How does Never Seez affect the tightening of the lug nuts? Do I need to increase the setting when using Never Seez?

Thanks.

-Sal

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maxhodges

09-03-2003 11:11:02

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Re: Lug Nut Torque in reply to Sal, 12-20-2001 19:10:30

>Do I need to increase the setting when using Never Seez?

Absolutely not. Torquing causes the studs to stretch slightly, and that's what creates the clamping force. When you remove the lug nuts, this tension is released, and the stud goes back to its original dimensions.

But with too much torque, the stud will "yield" (or stretch permanently), and never go back to its original dimensions. Not only that, but clamping force can become dangerously low, nuts can work themselves loose, studs can break off. In short, the symptoms of too much torque can be similar to those of too little.

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JUBILATION

12-21-2001 06:03:46

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Re: Lug Nut Torque in reply to Sal, 12-20-2001 19:10:30

What are your thoughts on using NeverSeez on the back side of my aluminum wheels. It seems like if I go more than a month without changing the wheels on my Jeep that the aluminum "adheres" to the steel hub and I can not free it. This is especially unhandy with a flat out on the road that is too bad to pump up with my compressor. I don't worry too much though because I am not planning on putting aluminum wheels on my Jubilee.
HAPPY N-MAS to all!!

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raytaasch

12-21-2001 05:50:35

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Re: Lug Nut Torque in reply to Sal, 12-20-2001 19:10:30

Sal, I have been using anti-sieze on all my toys and work vehicles for about 47 years now and have never had a lug nut 'freeze' or a stud twist off , or a fastener of any kind come loose. I have, however twisted off studs and bolts where no antisize was used and I haave seen lots of studs broken off.
The lug nuts on my motorhome require a torque of 400-500 ft lbs if torqued dry or 300 to 375 if torqued with lubrication. These are the truck size 22.5 X 8" Alcoa aluminum rims. I would think the lower torque would be neccessary with steel wheels but I usually torque my steel wheels to what the charts say. Again, never had any problems. ray

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Frank from Maine

12-21-2001 02:38:14

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Re: Lug Nut Torque in reply to Sal, 12-20-2001 19:10:30

Hi Sal...have used a light coating of anti...seez or grease on lug nuts fer over forty years and never saw any loosen up...and thats been on everything from bucket loaders to VW bugs...happy holidays.

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dave#1

12-21-2001 04:33:23

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Re: Re: Lug Nut Torque in reply to Frank from Maine, 12-21-2001 02:38:14

I agree, we use Never Seez at work,we have a 10 car hauler,4 car hauler,2 car hauler,C-70,3 deliverly trucks and 2 payloaders, we have never had any lug nuts loosen up. Besides,once again we're talking about a N series tractor not a BMW, it's not like you driveing your 8n down I-90 at 70mph LOL, if your lugs on your 8n start to loosen, you'll know it long before the tire/wheel come's fly'n off !(-:

later,dave

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Dell (WA)

12-20-2001 19:37:55

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Re: Lug Nut Torque in reply to Sal, 12-20-2001 19:10:30

Sal..... ..NEVER use anti-seaze onnna wheel lugs because the flexing of the wheel (and they all flex, trust me) will loosen the lug nuts..... ALWAYS DRY torque clean wheel lugnuts per specs. Front wheel lugnuts for 8N's 1/2-20 is 105 ft/lbs..... .Dell

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Sal

12-20-2001 19:46:02

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Re: Re: Lug Nut Torque in reply to Dell (WA), 12-20-2001 19:37:55

Dell,...thanks...-Sal

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