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2N Woes!!!

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AndyB

12-22-2001 17:54:43




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Now what???

Last week I posted a winded message about my ignition (no spark) problem which I finally found to be a points adjustment issue. Since then I was able to start up and get back to the garage (with no real power). Since I first thought it was a carb issue and I removed and cleaned the carb in between, yesterday I figured I'd set the carb back to the IT manual starting point and work from there. I got things back up to almost normal it seemed (just like all summer) but after about a half an hour of grading the driveway gravel I noticed a different sound. I am used to the exhaust manifold "blow by" at the corners sputtering - but this was a knock. I turned around and headed back - now power is "in and out" - and made it to the garage for another round.

Today I revisited the ignition / distributor / points / fuel flow and everything looks O.K. I can start the motor, tweak with the carb to get it to run at idle for a minute or two and then it dies. Try again and it starts - mid throttle it runs for a bit and then dies.....exhaust smokes more than usual....

Here's the million dollar clue which will probably tip off all of you experts - there is alot of exhaust "smoke" coming out of the oil filler tube. I am thinking baaaaa d things....I keep hearing that extra knock!!!

Any Ideas???

Maybe extremely bad gas, I'm thinking it's possible that I may have put in about a gallon of 32:1 2 cycle gas in by mistake, but have since put in 4-5 gallons of new go juice.

Andy.

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bj/8N/mt

12-23-2001 07:32:34




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 Re: 2N Woes!!! in reply to AndyB, 12-22-2001 17:54:43  
You don't say what model tractor and it could make a difference. Dell may be on the right track wanting to know about compression but more information is going to be necessary in any event. If'n it were mine I would check ignition timing. Sudden onset of your symptoms indicates something other than a worst case scenario.

Your mileage may vary



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AndyB

12-23-2001 08:04:56




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 Re: Re: 2N Woes!!! in reply to bj/8N/mt, 12-23-2001 07:32:34  
It is a '47 2N with a 12V conversion, standard front mount distributor. I hope ignition timing adjustment would do the trick, since I had to go in there and adjust the points that kinda makes sense. The IT manual is kind of sparse as far as description of how this is done. Could someone give me an idea of proper procedure?

In the manual they desribe a straight edge and aligning with the mounting holes - which seems clear from the figures, but then they mention the adjustment "plate" on the side. I'm guessing that they are referring to what looks like a rectangular flat piece on the side held on by a bolt, and fitted into a "slot" in the casting. My question would be how does this move/adjust if this is what they are referring to??

Obviously the straight edge adjustment is done "not running", but is the other adjustment done "running" (seems a bit dangerous) or adjust, start, try, stop, adjust, start, try again....????

AndyB

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bj/8N/mt

12-23-2001 08:31:30




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 Re: Re: Re: 2N Woes!!! in reply to AndyB, 12-23-2001 08:04:56  
If' you tried to do the points without removing the distributor you are a better man than I am or you have a helper who is about six inches tall with real small fingers. No trick to pulling a front mount distributor--two wrenches--one beer finagle. Once you get it on the bench it ought to become obvious. You can't set the timing with the engine running but there should be no need to.

Your mileage may vary

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Dell (WA)

12-22-2001 21:03:56




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 Re: 2N Woes!!! in reply to AndyB, 12-22-2001 17:54:43  
Andy..... .smokey exhaust, low power..... time for a compressing check, dry then wet. You know the drill, take all the sparkies out, open throttle, crank at least 5 puffs or until no more increases in gauge. Write 'em down. And then if'n you can't interpert the compression reading, post 'em and you'll get lottsa 'vice..... .Dell



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