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patrick md. va.

12-31-2001 05:14:46

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I have a 44 2n and a john deere 503 hog. I cut deep thick grass in first at almost full throttle. It seems to me that this hog is too big for the tractor. Have any of you used this 503 hog?

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you know . . . Dell (WA)

12-31-2001 09:53:02

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Re: bush hog size? in reply to patrick md. va., 12-31-2001 05:14:46

Patrick..... ..if'n ya sharpen yer hog's blades with one of them 4 1/2" angle grinder, cuts a whole lot eazier. Donnna hafta be perfect. Just lift and block the hog high innna air. Put yer safety glasses on and give 'em a touch-up.

Remember, always mow with hog adjusted frontend down about 1" from backend so ya only cuts the grass once. Then if'n still takes too much power because the grass is too long, just cut about 1/2 width.

And ALWAYS USE an Over Running Coupler (ORC) on yer PTO to drive your brushog. Otherwize, when you clutch to slowdown to go around the corner of the barn, fencepost, creekbank, irrigation ditch, wifes car (don't ask), all that mower rotary inertial energy will backfeed into the tranny and you'll just keep on tractoring right into it instead of slowing down (downright disconcerting when that happens).

Ya follow them suggestions and yer N-Tractor can confortably mow with a 5' rotory cutter..... .Dell, the self-appointed ORC safety preacher

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patrick md. va.

12-31-2001 10:07:11

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Re: Re: bush hog size? in reply to you know . . . Dell (WA), 12-31-2001 09:53:02

The tractor is not hear where i can get to it so i can not measure the width of the hog but it is 2 inches wider than the rear wheels. the wheels are set narrow (see my page). i only mow in the big open feilds so clutch is not a must, but i am thinking about one. Yes i know that you can not pull the tractor out of gear or dissengage the pto and it would not be fun to ride it out! I always try to set the mower level. I want to try this nose down, it sounds good. and the grass has a place to get out.

see my wheels width settings

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Dell (WA)

12-31-2001 10:21:25

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Re: Re: Re: bush hog size? in reply to patrick md. va., 12-31-2001 10:07:11

Patrick..... ..doesn't matter, big open field or not, yer N-Tractor PTO needs an ORC!!! ORC's can also couple old 1 1/8 pto to mowers cat-1 new 1 3/8 pto splines. It also prevents expensive noises innna the tranny!!! $60 cheep, gettcha 1. ..... Dell, the self-appointed ORC safety preacher

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BC Mike C #2

12-31-2001 08:10:00

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Re: bush hog size? in reply to patrick md. va., 12-31-2001 05:14:46

Is a bush hog what we call a rough cut mower ? The thing that is driven by the PTO with a 90 degree angle gearbox on top and two big blades underneath ? I use a 5 foot rough cut mower on the fields with my 9N. Use 2nd gear on the smooth bits and 1st up the hill and the bumpy bits. It works fine. Use chains to hold the deck up, gonna get a Zane thang later. My neighbours 8N ( there are three 8N's within a 1/4 mile here ) overheats with a 5foot mower. Mike C #2

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Rob

12-31-2001 09:20:01

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Re: Re: bush hog size? in reply to BC Mike C #2, 12-31-2001 08:10:00

Right! I believe Bush Hog is a brand name for what most manufacturors call a "rotary mower." You described a "rotary mower." "Rough cut mower" makes sense because there is also a "finish mower." The "finish mowers" I've seen look like a few push-around lawnmower decks fastened together to get a wider cut.
I wonder if your overheating-8N neighbor might be setting his mower with the tail lower than the front end. That just results in using a lot of power to cut the grass twice.

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BC Mike C #2

12-31-2001 09:49:19

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Re: Re: Re: bush hog size? in reply to Rob, 12-31-2001 09:20:01

Rob, thanks for clarifying that. Two of the neighbours use 5 foot mowers with their 8N's. One is a lawyer who has the dealer pick up the tractor whenever there is a problem. His N runs rough but gets the job done, his wife does the mowing. The other guy is a developer and his overheats, but the rad is probably clogged and you are probably correct with the angle thing. Neither of them use chains to hold up the mower deck and they keep getting lower as they mow, and drop to the ground when they stop. Neither of them have an ORC and the inevitable happens with running into things. Watching them at work is " Better than the movies " as my brother would say. Mike C # 2

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Rob

12-31-2001 13:02:49

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Re: Re: Re: Re: bush hog size? in reply to BC Mike C #2, 12-31-2001 09:49:19

Sounds like interesting neighbors, especially the lawyer's wife! I need a wife like that. Reminds me of that proud gal down in Arkansas that was telling me how happy she was with her husband. Seems he has given her a chainsaw for Christmas and now she didn't have to chop all that wood.

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PCC-AL

12-31-2001 05:26:55

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Re: bush hog size? in reply to patrick md. va., 12-31-2001 05:14:46

Hi Patrick,
Check out my question to Rob on the post"Question for N bushoggers". What size in feet is your hog? I don't use my 8N to bushog anymore as I bought a new MF 231 a couple of years ago and it has so much more power and live PTO.
I'm trying to find out now what is the correct position for the hog to be connected to the tractor.
Thanks to this darned puter, I am beginning to get educated in my old age. It seems that the way I have done things for years may not be the"correct" way, just because it has always worked.

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Wayne Woods

12-31-2001 06:17:14

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Re: Re: bush hog size? in reply to PCC-AL, 12-31-2001 05:26:55

A five footer should work just fine. I run a 5' behind my 8N, in some pretty high weeds, with some accasional brush. Purrs just fine through the weeds, govener opens up some when we hit the brush! Depends upon what brush, and how thick. The wild cedar saplings hardly makes a difference. some of the other stuff does. Never tried anything bigger. Might handle a 6' in fields that get mowed somewhat regularly.

I agree that a live PTO would make the work a lot nicer!

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