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RICKWI

01-01-2002 07:45:33

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Another try

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Mark B (PA)

01-01-2002 08:32:24

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Re: Dearborn wagon in reply to RICKWI, 01-01-2002 07:45:33

Rick - I believe Ed's correct on the model.The parts explosions sometimes differ a bit from the actual production methods i.e. bolts instead of rivets. The metal tag will certainly show the model and serial #. Do you remember what is was?

Where is this wagon and how much $$? Around here, the smaller wagons are very rare. The old farmers call them grain wagons and most were fitted with the grain body. It would be an extremely handy implement

The N Newsletter had a picture of a restored Dearborn or Ferguson wagon some time back that had dump capability. The hydraulic cylinder stuck straight up in front of the bed. I have wanted to restore one of these little wagons for a long time but have never seen one for sale.

Rick and Ed, thanks for the interesting pics and info! - Mark

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Mark B (PA)

01-01-2002 10:31:30

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Re: Re: Re: Dearborn wagon in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 01-01-2002 09:04:31

Ed, Your archives are fantastic! It looks like Ford went with the later 8N /Jube/100 series front wheels on the later wagon. The 1947 ad shows an automotive type wheel (possibly pickup truck wheel) with hubcaps.

Having one of those early wagons with the auto wheels/caps would be stylin'! It should be pretty easy to restore one as both types of wheels are still available.

It might take some research to ID/build a box to match the ones sold by Ford. As you said, most farmers probably built their own to save money, which means the Ford-built box is likely a rare find. Ed, I don't suppose you have any Ford literature that gives details/pics of the Ford boxes?

And Rick, where did you say that wagon is? I'm coming down with a case of the Igottahavits. Now where did my wife hide the checkbook this time?....:-)

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RICKWI

01-01-2002 19:33:49

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Dearborn wagon in reply to Mark B (PA), 01-01-2002 10:31:30

It's in a boneyard at Harrisville WI. The phone number is 608-296-2045. Tunis Thalaker (Tuny) is the proprietor as he has been for the last 47 years. If you come to get the wagon, you probably should bring a transporter, there are probably a dozen N's setting out there waiting for another chance.

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-01-2002 11:20:00

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Dearborn wagon in reply to Mark B (PA), 01-01-2002 10:31:30

Hey Mark.

>> Ed, I don't suppose you have any Ford literature that gives details/pics of the Ford boxes? <<

I'm afraid not. I've got ads from 1947 and '53, and Master Parts Books from 1949 and 1957, but they only show the running gear and wheel/hub assemblies. I don't have any (nor have I seen any) literature on the boxes for them.

On the wheels..... ..I'm sure that if you see enough of these wagons, you'll find the farmers put all kinds of wheels and tires on em. Also, according to the 1957 MPB, there are three different front axle assemblies and two different rear axle assemblies listed for these wagons, depending on serial #. It also lists two different hub assemblies, based on serial number, and three different wheels (16" 6-hole; 15" 6-hole; and 15" 5-hole). This would no doubt account for the differences noted.

I'd love to have one of these wagons, but I won't be driving to Wisconsin this time of year to get it.....LOL!!

Hope this helps..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-01-2002 08:04:43

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Re: Dearborn wagon in reply to RICKWI, 01-01-2002 07:45:33

Rick, did you take a hard look at the ad pic below the parts explosion that I posted? It sure looks like a Dearborn 21-2 to me. Can you read the metal tag attached to it?

Happy New Year..... ..... ..... .Ed
'52 8N475798

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RICKWI Ed-That's the one in your earlier post

01-01-2002 10:30:20

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Re: Re: Dearborn wagon in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 01-01-2002 08:04:43

I didn't wait long enough for the color ad to open in your early post. The parts breakdown picture is not the wagon, but the one in the ad is. You said 1947, but it sure looks like the large bolt pattern wheels of the 1936 to 39 passenger cars were used. The hub caps shown in the ad look like the old large style. Somebody should fix this thing up.

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2fordsmike...Ed, Are wheels same as 8Ns fronts?

01-01-2002 09:01:55

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Re: Re: Dearborn wagon in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 01-01-2002 08:04:43

Ed: For some reason I have it in my head that the wheels are the same as the 6:00-16s or 5:50 16s on the front of late 8Ns? Am I dreaming? I used to have some literature (acquired as a boy in the 50s) for a Woods-Dearborn cornpicker that showed the wagon. It occurs to me that it would look great with 8N style wheels and a load of grandkids at a parade! Mike--Iowa

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-01-2002 09:08:33

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Re: Re: Re: Dearborn wagon in reply to 2fordsmike...Ed, Are wheels same as 8Ns fronts?, 01-01-2002 09:01:55

Happy New Year, Mike! Check my response to Mark, where you can see the wagon behind the Jube.

Regards..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798

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RICKWI HERE'S THE FRONT END

01-01-2002 07:48:14

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Re: Dearborn wagon in reply to RICKWI, 01-01-2002 07:45:33

Hey that worked. Now anybody know the era of this and anything about what wheels belong on it?

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