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Po Folks

09-30-1998 19:50:18




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I took an 8n block (star before and after serial number)to a machine shop to have sleeves installed. The guy looked at it and said it would have to be ground and fitted with thick wall sleeves. I asked why and he said the thin wall would not work. Later I took my neighbor's 8N block(star before and after) He told the neighbor the same thing. I have had blocks sleeved before and never had to use thick wall. Do I smell something fishy or could this be true? Both engines were running when we decided to overhall. Has anyone else had this problem?

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TimK

10-01-1998 07:01:47




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 Re: Opinion's Needed.. in reply to Po Folks, 09-30-1998 19:50:18  
I just rebuilt my 2n and although the serial no. indicated steel sleeves, the previous owner had cast iron sleeves installed. Anyhow, not knowing this when I talked to the local machine shop, they had no problem in ordering me and installing thin wall sleeves (which of course they did not do once I opened it up), and they indicated that they had done it many times before. I think your machine shop is trying to goose up their revenue by requiring a rebore job when its not needed. They also don't have to fiddle around with thin wall sleeves which they may have screwed up installing on jobs in the past.

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Milkman

10-01-1998 06:31:17




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 Re: Opinion's Needed.. in reply to Po Folks, 09-30-1998 19:50:18  
He told you thin wall wouldn't work, but why didn't he tell you why they wouldn't work? Why do they manufacture new sleeves if they dodn't work? this actually brings up a question thats been on my mind for a while. The star with the seriel no. means the liners are steel liners. I am getting ready for a rebuild myself, and I think I would rather have cast iron sleeves, but the ads say the block has to be bored to accept them. Wouldn't cast iron be a lot better than steel? Milkman

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Old George

05-28-2000 12:03:30




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 Re: ford 9n in reply to Jon Kolomaznik, 05-28-2000 09:08:58  
Jon,
That serial # would indicate your brothers tractor to be a 1945 2N. I will include a link below to John Smith's great page on help to identify N series tractors. As for the carburetor, the small screw is the idle adjusting needle and the large one is the power adjusting needle. Initial setting for both is approximately one turn counterclockwise from the seated position. Adjustment procedure from the FO-4 as follows:
With engine running at idle speed, turn the idle adjusting screw in until the engine falters from an overly rich mixture, then turn the screw out until the engine runs smoothly.
The final adjustment of the main needle should be made with the engine running at governed speed under full load. Turn the adjustment screw in until the engine just begins to lose power, then turn the screw out until the power picks up and the engine runs smoothly. If the engine hesitates or backfires when picking up a load, turn adjusting screw out about 1/8 turn more to enrich the mixture.
Hope this helps.
Alan Esch
45 2N 183513

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Cadillac Gary

10-01-1998 04:36:16




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 Re: Opinion's Needed.. in reply to Po Folks, 09-30-1998 19:50:18  
PF, I agree with your subject., Opinions Needed. You need a second opinion!! G/L Cadillac Gary



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Mike H(Md)

10-01-1998 02:16:00




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 Re: Opinion's Needed.. in reply to Po Folks, 09-30-1998 19:50:18  
Yes I would say something smells fishy. sounds like gouge you for a lot of money. I just rebuilt mine with thin sleeves last spring and it works fine. He probably didn't know that you have to freeze the sleeves, and heat the block to install them.I would probably try another machime shop or do it yourself.....Good Luck....Mike



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