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RayPHX

12-01-2002 15:02:36




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I just put a Paulson Loader on my 52N and the limitations are immediately apparent. The lack of Bucket hydraulics and the lost of 3 point use, is NUTS. I now find myself shade tree engineering hydraulics for the bucket. I can handle that part - but,
If anyone can advise me on a proven method of having BOTH FE loader and 3 point use simultaniously. Please tell me. OR - should I just add independant hyd pump for the Paulson Loader and not even us the N- hydraulic pump.
HELP :-(

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Thanks to all- Great Info

12-01-2002 18:04:13




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 Re: Paulson Loader Blues in reply to RayPHX, 12-01-2002 15:02:36  
Thanks !!!!! You people are incredible. The info is perfect. I will be getting a Zane Thang (after these mods are done). You folks are so generous with good info that I am assamed that I have nothing to offer in return to this forum. I am having a blast with this 8N and it has saved this ole back of mine many pains. Maybe I will get a Zane Thang for Christmas (wifie, hint-hint).
Now is the time to start dropping those discrete little hints to the wives fellas !!

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ZANE

12-01-2002 17:26:26




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 Re: Paulson Loader Blues in reply to RayPHX, 12-01-2002 15:02:36  
I don't know if you have ever heard of the ZANE LIVE THANG? When the device is attached to the N tractor or the TO Ferguson tractors it will give you live hydraulics. You can use the three point hitch with the clutch disengaged and the PTO not turning or you can use the three point hitch with the PTO turning. At the same time you can also plumb in any number of open face two way spool valves to operate a loader or and other remote hydraulics that you wish to add to the tractor as long as you have the control valves to operate the implement. You do not have to do any drilling or welding etc. It mounts to existing bolts on the original tractor accessories.

These units are operating on about a dozen tractors at this time and I can give you the addresses of these people if you wish. I have one of them on my 52 8N and even sold an 8N a few months ago with one installed where there were no moving parts of the N belly pump even in the pump because they had all broken except the valve chambers. still working like a charm for the three point hitch.

See the link below for more information.

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MikeC

12-01-2002 15:09:18




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 Re: Paulson Loader Blues in reply to RayPHX, 12-01-2002 15:02:36  
I have a Dearborn loader that has its own pump that runs from a shaft attached to the front engine pulley. The shaft runs through the hole normally reserved for the hand crank. I think that the easiest way to keep your existing loader would be to rig up something similar for it. Most of the parts are available (pump, shaft, pulley mount, etc). Ed Gooding has a great parts diagram that he might be able to share to help you out.

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MikeC

12-01-2002 15:36:17




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 Re: Re: Paulson Loader Blues in reply to MikeC, 12-01-2002 15:09:18  
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Here is a copy of some stuff that Ed Gooding had posted some time ago. The credit goes to him (yes I swiped it from him!)

Maybe this will help you determine if you want to try to fabricate something similar for your Paulson loader.

Hope this helps!

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nzer

12-01-2002 16:49:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Paulson Loader Blues in reply to MikeC, 12-01-2002 15:36:17  
I am running an allied loader off the n pump and using my 3 point simultaneously on my 9n. I did it by taking off the hydraulic cover, removing the cylinder and taking the cover to a machine shop. There I got them to tap the hole where hydraulic fluid enters the cover from transmission housing. Next, 1/4" (I think) plug is inserted into this hole. Next, I got them to drill a hole through the cover from the hole where fluid goes to the cylinder. This hole is also tapped. I then reinstalled the cylinder and hooked everything up to the tractor. The hole that was drilled comes out just under the front of the eat spring. I installed a 90 degree hydraulic swivel in this hole. I used the pressure test port on the pump as my supply. I drilled a return into the inspection plate. You can now place an a-b selector valvein the supply line. Run a line from "A" to the 90 degree swivel under the seat. Run a line from "B" to the spool valve(s) that controls the loader. Then just plumb your return from the spool to the hole in the inspection plate.

Now with this setup then with the selector valve in "a" position, the 3pt will function as normal. With selector in "B" position and quatrant control at full up, the loader will work. No need to chain the lift arms. I now use my box blade with my loader all the time - works well. Not actually as hard as it sounds, especially if you already have a spool valve and return line for running your loader. Could be done in under a day no sweat.

good luck Email if any questions - also search the archives - that's how I found out how to do this

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