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bill

12-13-2002 18:47:19




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My store mangaer at the mini mart I am working at is retiring and he says that the company will be replacing him so I filled out an application and sent it in today. he said there is some compitishon for it but he told me to apply anyhow and i worked very hard to write a one and get a premotion. I dont know if I did the right thing because I was really proud of what I have done but when i turned it in i felt really small like i havent done a lot in my life but I work hard. so i guess i will fight my blues tonight hope for the best and i guess i have to think no harm was done and i could only win by applying. now i will loose some sleep wondering if i will get the job or if the day time counter sales person Ed will get the job then I have to work for ed and he is younger than me and sometimes he is arrogant at me.

well if anyone has had some experiences in the win and lose colum I wouldnt mind hearing about them to pick me up. bill

bg keep to yourself i know my spelling isnt good and you and your friend call me trailer trash and stuid a_ _ but let me say that i work hard to do what is right for my family and i dont care what you say so just dont reply. "little b-bill to you"

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Well. inthe immortal words of Ted Knight,,,,

12-15-2002 21:08:32




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
the world needs ditch diggers too.



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Upper Peninsula, Mich.

12-14-2002 20:22:07




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
Hi Bill. You sound like a very compassionate, honest and sincere person. Most of us can see other's faults but not our own. You have apparantly taken a real good look at yourself recently and this is good, very good. It takes a very big person to see their own faults. Regarding critisium. If someone criticizes you, see if there is any truth to the criticism. If so,make changes; if not, ignore it and live so that no one will believe the negative remarks. "Nobody stands taller than those willing to stand corrected." Remember that old saying,"you get out of life what you put into it." Another way to think is " Do not seek so much to be consoled, as to console; do not seek so much to be understood, as to understand; do not seek so much to be loved, as to love. In other words, "give to others and you shall receive back." Become a valued team player.Three steps in becoming a team player could be; Be a good company representative. Keep the self improvement frame of mind and make personal growth and education a goal and third; the key to growth and development is seeing yourself as a professional. Get rid of the old"just a clerk or secretary" image, and realize your tremendous worth to the organization in the role you have chosen to fill.Give yourself credit.
Success is great, but we don't learn from our success, but from our failures.
Self-motivation experts have found that the more positively you think about yourself, others and life, the easier your road to success will be. Here's a couple of more thoughts or ways to psyche yourself up for success. *Your biggest competition is you and your self imposed limits.
*Try a little visualization. Spend 90 seconds imagining how you'd be if you achieved all the success you seek. What will you look like? Where will you be? What will you be doing? Let that image guide you in the future. * Be your own leader, even if your on a team or work for a strong manager. Know who you are, what you want, where your going. Trust you intuition. *Every thought that goes through your mind creates your future. If you send out a message to others that your not very good, they'll accept it. * Consider working with a buddy as you both strive toward success. It could be your wife, a close friend or a co-worker. * Try to strengthen one weak attitude per week. * Don't define your success only in terms of your career or possessions. Aim to be a complete person in all areas; career, spirituality, family, comunity work, health and fitness. *Don't just dream about where you want to be in 3 months or 3 years. Write down your goals and ambitions and write a plan for reaching them. Sure, you can change them in the future, but without a plan, dreams evaporate. * Program yourself to be positive and you will see positive results. Focus on your goals and the positive side of problems. Catch yourself when you start to be too self critical. Constantly talk to yourself about how good you are and about how good things will happen to you. * Practice viewing situations as they really are, not as the worst case scenarios you have imagined. * A simple way to build self condifdence and a positve self image is to perform a kindness for someone every day. * Live in the present. Anger and disappointment about the past and worry about the future, poisen your present potential. I hope one or more of these ideas helps you. Have a good night and good day tomorrow and remember work hard, don't watch the clock and it will work out for you, maybe not this time, but believe me, it will. The very best of luck to you. Ron

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From the arvchives, 10 months ago..................bg

12-14-2002 11:28:44




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
"Posted by Bill on February 18, 2002 at 04:20:23 from (206.243.130.162):

How come is it that everyone has more tractors more money, more land than I do? I didn't come froma family with any money and I work hard at my mediocre job to make ends meet and sometimes I get discouraged because it seems lime everyone has more of everything than I do and I wish I had more. I'm not the smartest person in the world to have a multi thousand dollar job or own a business and company and inherited a lot of land that was in my family. I do everything by doing whaty I can. I just wish I could have a line of Ford tracotrs all painted and new and show everyone that I am also making it in this world. Bill"

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dang!!!...........another typo........................bg

12-14-2002 11:43:52




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 Re: Re: (OT) my job in reply to From the arvchives, 10 months ago..................bg, 12-14-2002 11:28:44  
ARCHIVES! ARCHIVES! ARCHIVES! Practice makes almost perfect.....Perfect practice makes perfect.



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MarviN (OR)

12-14-2002 08:31:11




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
Bill

Sometimes my kids yell, "That's not fair"! My reply is "Who told you life is fair"? I work for my living and support of my family. So do you and when you get home your family still loves you and respects you no matter what you did at work that day. Store manager or store clerk is still working at a job. I know it seems bad, but there are some people out there that are much worse off than you. In Oregon the unemployment rate went to 7.1% this month. Unfortunately our company laid off three or four guys just yesterday due to lack of work. (I wasn't one but I saw a friend go) I may have a job this week but I never know sometimes what will happen next.

I have always made my decisions and then stepped forward, sometimes it seems like a small step, but I always thought that I was moving in the right direction. Keep stepping forward and you will get somewhere.

BTW My spelling can be bad because I have big fingers that hit the wrong keys sometimes. I backspace quite a bit and it takes me forever to write.

Like Kasey Kasem used to say, "Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars"!!!

Good Luck

Marvin

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steve19438

12-14-2002 07:54:15




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
you said you felt "small". if your spelling has anything to do with that do what i do, keep a dictionary by the computer!



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T.J.

12-14-2002 07:32:34




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
Bill, Just remember one lone amateur built the ark. Hundreds of professionals built the Titanic.



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yeh, but.................bg

12-14-2002 10:49:17




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The amateur was working for God.



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BS@ElmaNY

12-14-2002 00:03:07




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
Dear Sir:

WHAT IS A "HERO?"

Is it a highly-paid sports athlete who can't stay off of drugs, and who is therefore a poor role model for kids? NO!

Is it a grossly-overpaid CEO that steals from his company and the stockholders that own it to establish a lavish lifestyle and to impress others he thinks he needs to impress? NO!

Is it someone who always, somehow, someway, tries to make himself appear better than everyone else, with titles from work, with money, with fancy clothes, with expensive cars, with educational status, with PhD/Esq at the end of his name, and so on? NO!

A hero is none of these people. Yet, in our society, these are the sort of people who are looked up to. Don't ask me why, because I just don't know why.

AGAIN, WHAT IS A "HERO?"

A hero doesn't ask for people to look up him (or her).

A hero works a long, hard day, and comes home to make supper for his kids, and to read to his kids, and to spend tiem with his kids, and so on.

A hero drives his kids to their baseball games, football games, and so forth, AND THEN sits there and watches his kids, and roots for his kids, and then takes his kids for a meal (win or lose) to McDonald's.

A hero tries to get a few more months out of a pair of shoes, or a pair of pants, or whatever, so he can spend money on getting his kids the clothes they want... even if they are rather expensive clothes and are wanted just to impress his kids' friends.

A hero gets up at night to deliver glasses of water, or to turn on a night light, or to check under the bed, or to stay up all night when someone gets sick and is scared to be all alone sick, even if it means being dog tired at work the next day.

A hero smiles to his kids, even when he had a bad day at work, or when they did something bad & they are afraid their parent will get angry at them.

A hero is, and always should be, just "regular folk." What's important is, who he (or she) is a hero to.

Bill... you're somebody's hero.

Take care my friend.

Bri

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bill

12-14-2002 07:34:21




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 Re: Re: (OT) my job in reply to BS@ElmaNY, 12-14-2002 00:03:07  
you gave me something to think about and to beleave in. this life that has so much work and people in it gets to be to much at times and everybody is to critickal of everyone that i am sorry to will y n because i didnt mean for him to think i was demeening him abut telling him to not take dave 1 serusly and not reply to him. when he keeps putting himslef in front if dave 1 sights he is being willy nilly. when he is staying out of his way he is being mark. that is what i meant for him to get from my messages. bg is another story because he cant finsih his tractor and he think i'm a stupid-a s. sorry just a guy who came from a foster home and working and doing my best. i am mean sometimes because people are mean to me. bill

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bg

12-14-2002 09:02:44




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 Re: Re: Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-14-2002 07:34:21  
Is everybody supposed to feel sorry for you? Are we supposed to think you're a "man" because you jumped on the board and used language that the most civilized people find offensive? As I remember, I made a very non-agressive, non-judgemental statement that this was a family board, and you over-reacted and started calling me the morality police etc. Then you came back and apologized and said you would do better. Then it was right back to the same old stuff. Ever since, you've taken every opportunity to attack my postings. I've been posting on this board many years and have made some mistakes in how I reacted to people and statements. What I have done is tried to help people with my knowledge and experience. Sometimes I don't get it right, but I have made an honest effort to try to help. Little-b-bill, I don't recall you ever making a post where you made a positive input about how to solve a problem with a tractor or anything else.

Little-b-bill, I never called you a stupid-a** or anything else. If you have that attitude, I guess the shoe must fit or you wouldn't be trying to wear it. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, go after your new job, earn some respect, develop some self-esteem.

As far as my tractor goes...I will finish it when it suits MY schedule. I don't need it, so there's no reason to work on it except when I feel like it. It's just a toy, no longer a needed tool. It's convenient having it incomplete, because I can always take a picture of an assembly someone needs to see. ;^) Call it an educational exhibit....I rebuilt the engine 11 years ago, used it until I no longer had a need for it, and have no compulsion to finish the rest of it. I have plenty of other activities, hobbies and interests to keep me busy. That's part of being a multi-dimensional person: I have a social life, a family life, a business life, a church life, a personal-edification life, a tractor-board life. I try to keep these in balance as much as possible.

If you had enough gumption to post an email address, I would have responded to you in private. But as it is....oh, well.

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bill..er...Andy.

12-14-2002 08:17:32




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go easy on yourself,

Tyman



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tlak

12-14-2002 05:41:19




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 Re: Re: (OT) my job in reply to BS@ElmaNY, 12-14-2002 00:03:07  
It always bothered me to see the definition in the dictionary for hero as someone who does something heroic such as saving someone or someone whom is good at sports. I think we need a different name for the sports figures.



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MikeC

12-14-2002 06:33:37




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I agree. There are very few sports figures that I would consider heros. Some of the few that try to maintain a good role model for kids might fall into that category but those sports figures are few and far between.



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other kevin

12-13-2002 21:05:32




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
I work in a place where a small change is a big deal. Recently they hire a couple of moron managerial types from outside(UNTRADITIONAL). tHESE CLOWNS COME IN AND WANT TO MESS WITH A SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 90 ODD YEARS and they don't care who gets screwed over along the way. Sorry hit caps too lazy to go back.Moral of story, on Day of Reckoning, we all gotta answer for what we done. If this job is what you do, do it with class and honor and noone can fault you. If they do, they are not a man and will answer to the higher power

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Willy-N

12-13-2002 21:02:02




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
You post that you may have yourself a new job. Well I have a job too it is parting tractor to feed my family but sometimes you like to make statements about that. I take my familey seriously too and will do what ever it takes to keep a roof over there heads! I can't spell that good either but so what I still get ahead in other ways spelling dosen't make a difference in. I just make sure someone proofs it when I need it right. Do what you need to make a living and let the rest fall in place. Nothing wrong with working for a living. Mark H.

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Keep the faith

12-13-2002 20:39:24




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
Trust that God will take better care of you than you could take of yourself. Be faithful and accept what happens. Do not worry about "Ed" just be faithful. You seem to be selfconscious about your spelling/English skills. I would recommend you read as much as possible and especially read your Bible. You could also take some classes at a Junior College. Keep the Faith



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Bill S Texas

12-13-2002 20:38:13




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
Hey Bill,

There's 2 and only 2 ways you could have that low opinion of yourself: either you're listening to others who don't have your best interest at heart, or you're listening to yourself too much.

First, forget about those who can't do anything but point out a person's faults. People do not better themselves by making others look bad. Shame that all people don't understand that little truism.

You say that you are proud of your accomplishments but when you turned in your resume you felt small. Why is that? Because you're second-guessing yourself? That's not a good habit to fall into. Quit trying to live for what you think others expect, and live for what you KNOW and DEMAND: the truth, honesty, and best effort. Others be damned if they will minimize your achievements. Look, I'd be lost in a convenience store trying to make heads and tails out of the paperwork. On the other hand, if you were plopped into my life, you'd be lost. Each of us chooses our own path, and sets our own goals. If those goals are high enough to cause us to work to make it happen, then we (each of us) has set the right goals.

By applying for the position of manager, you have set one of your goals. You want to achieve something with this opportunity. (It does, incidentally, speak volumes that your current manager encouraged you to apply.) There are many in this world who are content just to sit on their butts and let the world go by, and then whine later. I applaud you for not doing that.

For the second point: You probably do not have the same interests and life goals as whoever will make the hiring decision. That could be why, to you, your resume seems weak: you're looking at it from his point of view. If it does look weak to him, that's his decision, and not yours to assign to him. If he passes you by, it's his loss, not yours, if he's too narrow to see your abilities and achievements. As far as the resume goes, it's truthful, it's YOU. There you are, take it or leave it.

So what if you have to work for Ed. Learn from him, even if he gives you nothing to learn from except mistakes and how not to do the job. If it's that unbearable, find another job. If there isn't one to be had, MAKE ONE.

That's the beauty of this wonderful country of ours: any one of us, at any time, can jump off with both feet and make his own job. I have worked for other people for wages, and I have worked for myself. Takes a lot of dedication to do it yourself, but you wouldn't be applying for a management position if you weren't prepared for the dedication.

My hat is always off to a man who puts his family first and does the right thing.

Email me if you like, I could go on for another couple pages...

Bill Priday
41 9N88110

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Well, little-b..................bg

12-13-2002 20:19:48




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
This is a different side of you. I hope you get the job, but if you don't it won't be for lack of trying. I figure things generally work out for the best, even though it may not seem like it at present. Hang in there. Consider the lillies, they don't toil or spin....

I myself have been self-employed for 2 years now, and my brother, with whom I have been working as an independent contractor, has quit the monument business and gone back into computer administration at East Carolina University. Now, I face the prospect of no income until I can find something lucrative to do. I have a Bachelor's degree in business administration, but my area is economically depressed and good-paying jobs are few. I still drive tractor-trailer part-time because it pays well when I can drive, but there hasn't been much work for the casual drivers lately. I don't know how I will pay my bills this month, but I have faith that I will be able to.

BTW, I don't think it was me who called you trailer-trash. You must be thinking about someone else. I have no animosity towards you personally. Sometimes internet stuff gets misconstrued and people develop attitudes about the way things are said and done. Don't feel bad about the spelling. Dell, Dave #1, and Willy-N can't spell, either... ;^)

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Charles(Mo)

12-13-2002 19:36:39




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Hey Bill,
I always like to hear about guys that will work hard and pay their way. Don't give up, people notice when you work hard or when you don't.

Charles



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MikeC

12-13-2002 19:29:48




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
Bill,
The measure of a man is not his job position but rather the content of his heart. No matter what you do, as long as you strive to be the best at it then you are successful. Working in a store you have the chance to touch a lot of different lives every day. Sometimes a simple "how do you do" to a customer who is feeling low may make all the difference to them. You may not know it but you have more influence over peoples attitude and lives than you may think.
Of course, that has to start with how you think of yourself. Personally, I think that you should make sure you call yourself Bill, not bill.

Another thing that you have to remember is that there are as many failures in our life as there are successes. There have been many times when I wanted something and fell short. But like a cowboy riding a bull, I got back up, brushed myself off and tried again. Eventually through persistance and patience I achieved what I wanted. So can you.

I wish you the very best. Keep us posted!

MikeC

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kevin

12-13-2002 19:03:48




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 Re: (OT) my job in reply to bill, 12-13-2002 18:47:19  
Well... I won't regale you with tales from my past, but I would say that with unemployment nationally over 6% and climbing, you might take some consolation in having a regular job of any sort. I have a good friend who is truly one of the smartest persons I have ever known, and a good-hearted and meticulous fellow besides. He has a masters degree in math and can't even get a clerical job (and he has had a number of different non-technical jobs in the past).

fwiw
-kevin

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