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Bush Hog shaft to long?

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Russell

06-02-2000 18:41:30

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Just purchased a King Kutter 5ft bush hog for my two acres. Attached it to my Ford 8N. I also purchased an over ride coupler. It seems the shaft from the bush hog to the tractor is a tad too long. Should I cut the shaft? It is two pieces in which one slides into the other. Do I need to cut both pieces? Any advise is appreciated.

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Russell

06-03-2000 19:29:34

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Re: Bush Hog shaft to long? in reply to Russell, 06-02-2000 18:41:30

Thanks to everyone for your assistance. I am going to work on hooking it up tomorrow (sunday). Thanks again. Russell.

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BEFORE YOU CUT THE SHAFT!!!

06-02-2000 21:29:16

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Re: Bush Hog shaft to long? in reply to Russell, 06-02-2000 18:41:30

I had the same problem when I bought my King Kutter and here's what I found:
When they assembled the mower, they reversed the two mounting brackets at the front of the deck.. The result is the mower set too close to the tractor. I was ready to cut the shaft, but before I did, I hooked up the rest of the mower to see if my tractor (a TO-30) would lift the weight. It lifted it OK, but the mower came in contact with the back tires. It took awhile, but the light finally appeared over my head. I studied the picture on the brochure and looked at the mower again, and finally realized I had to reverse the mounting brackets. Lo and behold! The sucker worked.
Give it a look and see if that's your problem.
Sorry this is so long-winded, but I wanted to cover the details.
Good Luck.
Chuck

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Jay

09-06-2001 17:27:47

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Re: Re: Bush Hog shaft to long? in reply to BEFORE YOU CUT THE SHAFT!!!, 06-02-2000 21:29:16

Hi Chuck,

On Monday, I'm purchasing a five-foot King Kutter for my 2N. I'm converting the PTO shaft to the modern 1 3/8"-inch version, plus --thanks to the wisdom on this board -- I'll be using an ORC. Can you please tell me how much you had to cut off the King Kutter's PTO shaft to make it work? Did you have a machine shop do it? I was gonna try the hacksaw method. Also, someone mentioned welding pieces back together??? What pieces? Duh. Is there welding involved? Appreciate any info you can give me.

Sincerely,

Jay

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One More Thing..

06-02-2000 21:47:33

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Re: Re: Bush Hog shaft to long? in reply to BEFORE YOU CUT THE SHAFT!!!, 06-02-2000 21:29:16

When I was getting ready to cut the shaft, I called the good people at king Kutter for advice. Yes, you cut equal lengths from both pieces of the sliding shafts, But the steel is pretty tough, so like it was stated before, you might want to have a machine shop do it.. But check the mounting brackets first!!!
Chuck

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Chris

06-02-2000 20:03:54

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Re: Bush Hog shaft to long? in reply to Russell, 06-02-2000 18:41:30

I just had the same problem on my 860. I took it and cut 4" off of the shaft. You might need to take it to a to a welding shop if you do not have the equipment. It is no big deal to cut it, as long as you weld it back together straight.

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Mike Willis

06-02-2000 19:14:07

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Re: Bush Hog shaft to long? in reply to Russell, 06-02-2000 18:41:30

Talk about coincidence! I was just looking at that same brush hog this evening for my 8N. May I add a couple of questions to yours?
What is and why the "over ride coupler"?
Do you forsee any problems with only being able to lift the brushhog with the pto engaged (ie blades turning?)
Is the standard slip clutch adequate?
Thanks for any suggestions!
Mike

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Russ

06-04-2000 10:14:52

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Re: Re: Bush Hog shaft to long? in reply to Mike Willis, 06-02-2000 19:14:07

An "overide coupler" is for use on tractors which don`t have an independent pto, hence, the pto and tranny are mechanically linked. The momentum from the rotating blades can actually "drive" your tractor in some cases. A slip clutch is a different component which when adjusted properly will prevent damage to your engine or drivetrain if you hit something with the mower. At least that what these terms mean around here.

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Mike

06-04-2000 18:42:07

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Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog shaft to long? in reply to Russ, 06-04-2000 10:14:52

Thanks Russ, that helps a lot. So one should have both a slip clutch and an over ride coupler when attaching a brushhog onto an 8N.
How about PTO speed? Do you just make your best estimate by ear or is there a more technical way?

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Ed Gooding (VA)

06-03-2000 03:25:41

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Re: Re: Bush Hog shaft to long? in reply to Mike Willis, 06-02-2000 19:14:07

>> What is and why the "over ride coupler"? <<

It's the same thing as the "slip clutch" to which you referred. Don't want to mow without it, unless you are into adrenaline rushes....LOL!

>> Do you forsee any problems with only being able to lift the brushhog with the pto engaged (ie blades turning?) <<

Not a good idea in my opinion. I leave the drive shaft disconnected while in transit, and then connect it to the PTO when I'm in the field and ready to mow. I secure it to the top link with one of those heavy-duty, black rubber bungee cords.

Hope this helps..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798

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