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Thx claus and llamas rebuild time

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rich

06-04-2000 17:51:29




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slow oil pickup problems.i still have slow oil pickup,i checked gage or unhooked it and none shot out for 5 seconds.i also checked if pickup was loose it wasnt, although it still could be sucking air someplace. where do i check the oil pressure releif valve? it looks like i have to take the whole front end off the tractor to take the pan off?what is the pump looking thing under the alternater, oil line comes from the filter into it, throttle linkage also is hooked too it. anyway i changed oil and put 20 w 50 hopeing for a fix, didnt work.if i have too split it ill just have it rebuilt.thx for the directions,keep up the good info

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llamas

06-05-2000 06:03:37




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 Re: thx claus and llamas rebuild time in reply to rich, 06-04-2000 17:51:29  
I'd be inclined to check the oil pressure relief valve. It's on the front of the motor, somewhat to the right of center, on the timing gear cover. It looks like a big old shallow bolt head. Make sure your wrench fits it very well, it's easy to round this off.

When you remove it, you'll find a conventional spring/plunger arrangement. It may be full of, or jammed with, nameless gook. The spring may be collapsed, weak or broken. The plunger may be worn where it seats, although it is meant to have a flat on the end. Review the design and function in the parts book and shop manual and replace any suspect part.

Beyond that, I guess that the pan will have to come off. Yes, the front axle mount also has to come off for that. Sorry about that.

llater,

llamas

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Claus

06-05-2000 05:36:47




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 Re: thx claus and llamas rebuild time in reply to rich, 06-04-2000 17:51:29  
Old George is correct in regards to your question about the Govenor.. When your engine is hot and you turn it off and you restart it, does it still take 5 seconds to reach pressure? Probably not... The oil pressure relief valve is located on the left front of the block, near the water pump. If your pickup tube was pulling in air, then I think it would continue to pull in air and you would not get oil pressure at all. I think that the oil lines may have a pin hole air leak allowing the oil to leak back into the system and consequently taking the extra time. (Just my theory) Due to the high film strenght of todays oils, I do not think that you will cause the engine any harm by running it with that delay...Automobile engines run longer without oil in the lines when you change oil and filter without any negative consequences. As long as the oil pressure is fine once the engine runs you should be ok... I don't think you will find anything drastic if you decide to take the engine apart.
Happy Motoring
Claus

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rich

06-05-2000 12:10:46




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 Re: Re: thx claus and llamas rebuild time in reply to Claus, 06-05-2000 05:36:47  
clause you are right, the pressure takes right off when warm and restarting.i checked the pressure releif valve its clean and appears ok.there does seem to be a small amount of oilleaking at govoner oil fitting and gage fitting,hope thats all it is.the thing runs great smokes a little when you give it gas (white blueish). i have changed the oil twice since i have had it (8 wks)theres nothing in the oil to indicate problems (metal shavings).are there any internal oil lines that may be leaking off? thx for the help everyone

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Claus

06-06-2000 04:52:26




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 Re: Re: Re: thx claus and llamas rebuild time in reply to rich, 06-05-2000 12:10:46  
The fitting going into the govenor is not that critical, but the fitting, if it leaks around the gauge, would allow the oil to drain back. This could possibly be your problem.
Happy Motoring
Claus



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Old George

06-04-2000 18:37:11




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 Re: thx claus and llamas rebuild time in reply to rich, 06-04-2000 17:51:29  
Rich,
I missed your earlier post but I think the governor is "what is the pump looking thing under the alternater, oil line comes from the filter into it, throttle linkage also is hooked too it." You also said you "checked if pickup was loose it wasnt, although it still could be sucking air someplace." You would have to pull the pan to check the pickup. You can be confident that Claus and llamas gave you good advice.Hope this helps.

Alan Esch
45 2N 183513

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