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9n'er

06-17-2000 05:00:31

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After sandblasting and power cleaning the chassis I have noticed a consistent but slow drip at the seal of the engine to the transmission box. While I have the tractor stripped, I'm getting used to the idea that I need to split the tractor right behind the motor and replace the seal. Help. 1. How difficult is it to split the tractor, pull it apart, and then slide the two halves together? I'm on a fairly level grave/dirt driveway. I'm on my own...no helpers or extra hands. 2. Do I need special tools? 3. While it is apart what else can I do to access any other typically worn or replacement part? clutch? Do I need special tools for those kinds of jobs? 4. What should I look for when it is apart? Any tricks of the trade and "if I was to do that again...I would do this differently pointers?" Well, this should be an interesting one...thank you in advance. 9N'er

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Michael Az

06-18-2000 05:35:53

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Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to 9n'er, 06-17-2000 05:00:31

If you use a floorjack on a concrete floor it will be easy to get it back together. Have flywheel ground, closely inspect starter ring, replace bearing in flywheel,replace throwout bearing.----- Michael

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9N'er

06-18-2000 15:25:46

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Re: Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to Michael Az, 06-18-2000 05:35:53

Michael: that looks like the way to go! I have some questions if you don't mind(?). Is it a matter of pulling the tractor apart, or do I need to drop the oil pan etc. that was suggested in an attached post. You're right, easier to do on a concrete floor, and I will wait til another day. I am going to save up for this job, and take it to a mechanic to do all of those things you suggested, a clutch, and although the engine is running fine, I think I will have it rebuilt nonetheless. Finances, lack of decent working area, limited time, and having accomplished enough this summer on this 9N is setting that direction. Thank you for sending this photo. 9N'er

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Michael Az

06-18-2000 16:29:13

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Re: Re: Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to 9N'er, 06-18-2000 15:25:46

Sure, it will just slide apart once its unbolted and everything else is off. Yes, the oil pan will have to come off to replace the seal on the crank. Be sure to not miss any pan bolts, its so heavy, it would be easy to break the pan if you missed one. Just get out the credit cards and go for it!!----- --Michael

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Mike OH

06-17-2000 07:02:26

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Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to 9n'er, 06-17-2000 05:00:31

Probably will have to split the tractor to change the seal. The Ford man told me I would have to on my Jubilee when I changed seal in it about 20 years ago, but found on the Jubilee you did not need to. Did need to drop the crank a bit. Mine also had a rope seal, but replaced it with a two piece rubber one. Has worked great since then. Had a bit of a problem getting old rope seal out (thought it was one piece), until I used a screw to screw into the end of the rope and used pliers to pull it out. On splitting tractor, just plan each move before you make it. And be sure you have a good support in place before anything comes loose. I wouldn't recommend doing this on gavel. I used a rolling floor jack to make the split and sections were heavy. HTH, Mike OH

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9N'er

06-17-2000 07:12:28

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Re: Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to Mike OH, 06-17-2000 07:02:26

Perhaps, the "thing to do" is to paint the tractor, put it back together, live with it for this summer, and do it after I build the house, shop, barn, roll it in one a concrete floor, and do this job in about 10 years after the major-butt-a - - honeydews list is done when I start air nailing, pouring concrete, lifting walls, moving dirt, installing septics, roofing, windows, build the furniture...hmmmmm mmmmm mmmmm maybe I best find a trailer, take out a small loan, haul it to a mechanic, rebuild the engine, and install new seals and a clutch to boot. Come to think of it, maybe I'll ponder this dillemma a little more. Perhaps blasting it, opened up the seal somewhat. ?? THANKs MIKE 9N-er p.s. I grew up in Rocky River just outside of Cleveland. Been a long time since I've been back to Ohio, but a nice place to be.

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Elwood

06-18-2000 05:27:19

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Re: Re: Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to 9N'er, 06-17-2000 07:12:28

I would find a way to do it before the paint job.As much work as you have already done I would hate to see the paint all chipped up by doing it later.Besides when you throw the big party when its done it will look a lot nicer without a drain pan under it.Wish I lived a little closer,would give you a hand,would be a fun project for an afternoon.

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dave#1

06-17-2000 05:48:04

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Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to 9n'er, 06-17-2000 05:00:31

You might just want to live with this oil leak, it's alot of work, you'll have to make the call.

After spliting the tractor you'll have to drop the oil pan, then the crank (I think) Way back when I rebuilt my engine, I remember my seals were a 2 piece rope type seal, you put one half of the seal in the block then set the crank in, then the other half of the seal in the oil pan and bolt the pan on (once again I think), I've had 1000's of gallons of Coors lights since then so I may be wrong"Belch"

Also, I think your suppose to soak the seals in oil.

later,dave

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9N'er

06-17-2000 07:00:59

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Re: Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to dave#1, 06-17-2000 05:48:04

Dave... This may be the major-butt decision point that I was anticipating with this tractor. Really rip into it, or let-it go. It sounds like a lot of work...and not just pull the tractor apart, install the seals, and hopefully everything will line up on one or two tries, then re-install and tighten the bolts. I was hoping it was just a 6 pack job...but looks like it may be a keg with a bunch of beg, borrow, steal, barter, and plead friends job. I'll look into the I&T it's somewhere buried under a bunch of boxes, sandpaper, wrenches, parts, cans of paint, newspaers, and a garbage bag. Maybe, I'll find that beer I opened two days and ago, set it down, and then promptly lost it...ever happen to you? 9N'er

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dave#1

06-17-2000 07:13:17

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Re: Re: Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to 9N'er, 06-17-2000 07:00:59

YUP! Lost more than one beer !

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Salmoneye

06-17-2000 08:20:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to dave#1, 06-17-2000 07:13:17

Losing Beers???

That's alcohol abuse!...:)

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9N'er

06-17-2000 10:10:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Splitting a 9N in reply to Salmoneye, 06-17-2000 08:20:37

happens all the time...I open one up, get distracted, lose it, go get another one, open it up, take a couple swigs, set it down, get distracted, and repeat the cycle all over. The good thing; they're always cold because they are fresh and opened. The bad thing; I think I get about three beers per 6 pack. :)

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