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rob 8N KS

07-05-2000 14:33:51




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My 8N has developed (or had it and I didn't notice it) compression in the radiator after long use at full throttle.

It just got a re-machined head and a new head gasket, but the mechanic that did this said the valves are going and the piston sleeves could also probably use replacement.

I don't have any white smoke, but it appears someone may have used some stop leak on it in the past.

Can bad valves cause compression in the radiator? Or is it more likely I have a cracked block (yikes!)?

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ZANE

07-05-2000 16:33:22




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 Re: compression in radiator in reply to rob 8N KS, 07-05-2000 14:33:51  
There is supposed to be some compression in the radiator. This is what happens when you have a pressurized radiator cap. If you are running hot and or loosing water in excess of a couple of inches in the tank then you may have some head gasket sealing problems. If you aren't loosing water you are not having trouble.

The valve cannot cause any loss of compression into the cooling system unless there were a cracked block in or around the exhaust valve ports and this is very unlikely on the N engine. I have personally never seen a cracked block except from being froozen.

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rob 8N KS

07-06-2000 10:28:56




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 Re: Re: compression in radiator in reply to ZANE, 07-05-2000 16:33:22  
My radiator cap is clearly not holding pressure. Should I get a new one?



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Nolan

07-07-2000 03:43:53




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 Re: Re: Re: compression in radiator in reply to rob 8N KS, 07-06-2000 10:28:56  
Most N's radiators are probably not holding pressure. It's just not a big deal with the oversized capacity of the cooling system on these machines. All pressurization does is increase the boiling point of the fluid. This matters greatly on a vehicle designed to run hot for increased combustion efficiency, and for one with a barely adequate cooling system, which describes most cars made today. They need the pressure to prevent boiling over. But on an N, with it's big radiator and low efficiency engine, it's not necessary.

However, do check back with your mechanic, for I suspect you may be misunderstanding him. I really don't think he was surprised to find pressure in the radiator, as that's perfectly normal. What he may have found is combustion chamber pressure in there, as from a blown head gasket.

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rob 8N KS

07-07-2000 07:29:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: compression in radiator in reply to Nolan, 07-07-2000 03:43:53  
The head gasket is brand new and the head has been remachined. I could very well be combustion, I don't think its from the head gasket.



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Nolan

07-07-2000 07:50:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: compression in radiator in reply to rob 8N KS, 07-07-2000 07:29:41  
The head is no flatter then what the machine shop did. If they cut it wrong, or used a poor condition rig, the head wouldn't be flat. Far rarer is the posibility of the block not being flat either.

The head gasket isn't installed any better then the mechanic who installed it. Improper torque can cause leaks, especially with dirty threads on the studs. Then the wrench shows a proper reading, but the nuts might not even be touching the head. Using the wrong sealing materials or damaging the the head gasket can also cause it to leak.

Not saying any of those things have ocurred, but you need to be aware of them and consider the need for investigation. Engines get built wrong all the time, just look at the number of new engines that need to be replaced as a result.

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