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Bushhogging with sherman transmission

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Redbelly1

07-13-2000 04:21:00




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i read rdnck's post and the followups and now i have a question. i have a 52 8N w/ a sherman over/under drive trans. is there any weak link in the sherman trans? what about using the sherman overdrive in first gear to bushhog? or the underdrive in third gear? any problems that anyone knows about?
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2fordmike

07-13-2000 14:01:04




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 Re: bushhogging with sherman transmission in reply to Redbelly1, 07-13-2000 04:21:00  
When using the pto, I'd strongly suggest leaving the Sherman in the standard or middle gear. PTO implements for this size tractor are designed to be operated at about 540 rpm, the standard rpm of the tractor's pto. If you change to Sherman low or high you most run the engine at different rpms to get the implement into the ideal range. This might be alright with some pto implements, but my experience tells me that a bush-hog type rotary mower should be operated in the mid-range. Mike -Iowa

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mike

07-13-2000 12:17:58




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 Re: bushhogging with sherman transmission in reply to Redbelly1, 07-13-2000 04:21:00  
I do alot of brushhoging with my 9n it has the sherman transmission i dont think you can hurt the tranny but i found that high range on the sherman was just to fast for my brush hog it really had it winding so i use 1st gear and low range its slow going but everything stays together.my brush hog is a 5 ft. razorback.



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Nolan

07-13-2000 10:43:46




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 Re: bushhogging with sherman transmission in reply to Redbelly1, 07-13-2000 04:21:00  
Doing what you described won't work.

The sherman works by changing the engine rpm as it goes into the transmission (that's important). At the transmission it splits, going to the rear wheels and to the pto.

So, if you put the Sherman in low range, the rpm going into the gearbox is lowered. This reduces vehicle speed in a given gear, *but* it also reduces the pto rpm the same percent. So you have to rev the engine up to get the pto rpm up where it belongs...bringing the vehicle speed up the exact same amount. The exact same thing happens in the overdrive position.

The Sherman doesn't give up underdrive per se, it gives you increased power by bringing the engine rpms up into the peak power range at standard pto rpm. That's the original marketing claims of Sherman, was that it gave you increased power, something like 20% increase if I remember right.

The Sherman was a strong transmission. It was designed precisely for increasing power, and is built to take it.

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Redbelly1

07-13-2000 11:51:29




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 Re: Re: bushhogging with sherman transmission in reply to Nolan, 07-13-2000 10:43:46  
thanks nolan for the info. i had been using 2nd gear w/o the sherman to bushhog and the speed of the tractor was just right, but i dont want my trans busting either.



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Nolan

07-14-2000 06:26:02




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 Re: Re: Re: bushhogging with sherman transmission in reply to Redbelly1, 07-13-2000 11:51:29  
A whole lot of the problem would have to do with what you're brush hogging. If it's like my place, where I'm forever finding old pieces of logs that I didn't pick up, stumps, etc. Then you could kill second gear. But if you're just using the hog to essentially mow a known clear area, where there really isn't any risk of running into things, then I wouldn't be overly worried about the weakness of 2nd gear.

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