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Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long)

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rossow (mn)

07-17-2000 10:45:41




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Hi, N-Board people:

Last Friday, I posted a question here regarding a 1951 8N traded in two days earlier at my local John Deere dealer. My concern was with what appeared to be oil in the radiator. After getting fresh N-Board advice plus advice from the archives that such oil is pretty common, I went back for another look at the tractor. The dealer gave me the previous owner's name, and I called him. He said the oil had been there for the 15 years he owned the tractor. He said he used it only for mowing, always kept it shedded, never had any trouble with it, and traded it only because he needed something that would mow closer to trees and that his wife could use more easily. In checking the coolant with an anti-freeze tester instead of a stick, I found the oil does appear to be a thinner film than I had previously reported -- only about an eighth of an inch. I'm hoping a head gasket will fix it. So, for better or for worse, here's what I got: 1951 8N. Proofmeter says 2,900 hours but doesn't work, so who knows?. Has 60-inch Woods-brand belly mower plus all the original 3-point lift arms, chains, links, etc., to convert to original, including a pair of stay bars and a swinging drawbar and even that little chain to hook over the three-point-lift lever. Rear tires look almost new but have minor checking, and the rims look solid. Front has car tires for mowing but I also got the original fronts with single-rib tires. Oil pressure is steady at 30-35 pounds whether idling or driving. Hydraulics work, at least enough to raise the mower and hold it. Converted to 12-volt last year with new Delco alternator and new battery. Has original lights but wrong bulbs. The sheet metal is rust-free but carries the usual share of dings and dents, and the paint is faded. The grill has dents in the bottom pan but the bars are unmolested. As usual, the toolbox is missing, as is the winged radiator cap. It has rear lights (both red and clear, but one lens is broken). When you accelerate, it gives a quick puff of oil smoke, but the smoke doesn't show up when driving. (The ex-owner said he had to add a quart two or three times a summer, so a ring job may be in order some day.) It also has a functioning foot accelerator, which I think may be a fairly rare option. Best of all, I discovered today that what I thought was only an underdrive tranny is actually both over-and-under. (I hadn't remembered that I had to slide the side lever in and out as well as forward and back to access both over- and underdrive as well as normal speeds.) So that's it. The implement dealer wanted $2,500, but I got it for $2,100, including free delivery. For those who have endured this long post, does it sound like I did OK? I have a severe tendency toward initial buyer's remorse, even when I got my 1952 8N at half the price a few years ago. Now I need reassurance so I can go home and tell my wife a lot of highly knowledgeable guys said, "Wow! Damn good deal! Worth at least four or five times the price!" Regardless, please accept my thanks (I think) to those who offered advice about whether to buy. However -- if the oil in the radiator DOES turn out to be a disastrous problem, I'll hunt you down and mail it to you in an old cracked Mason jar with a leaky lid.

Regards,
M. Rossow
Mankato, MN
"Now two 8N's! Is there no end to the madness?"

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dave#1

07-19-2000 18:00:40




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 Re: Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long) in reply to rossow (mn), 07-17-2000 10:45:41  
Good deal ! Hope it all works out for ya.
Oh ya, if the problem turns out to be worst than we said, well, that was a different dave#1 that replied !(-:

have a good one!

later,dave



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Tom and his 8N

07-17-2000 21:22:40




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 Re: Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long) in reply to rossow (mn), 07-17-2000 10:45:41  
I saw one along the road for sell about 6 weeks ago and called on it. The engine was oil covered, all tires shot, rims rusted. Skin badly dinged up. Also saw oil in raditor too. Tranny look like it was filled with milk. It did come with a beat up 5' blade.
I nearly dropped the phone when he wanted 2600 for it. Told him if he came down a thousand I'd think about it. He hung up... the tractor is still sitting there...

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Bob (KY)

07-17-2000 17:48:16




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 Re: Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long) in reply to rossow (mn), 07-17-2000 10:45:41  
Yeah I bet you were forced. Like you expect us to believe that both arms were twisted behind your back and then you wuz drug to the GREEN place to buy that BEAUTIFUL REDBELLIED THING. Admit it - you went there with LUST in your eye and came away with LOVE in your heart (AND a new HONEY).
Wish I could find a deal like that!!!



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rossow (mn)

07-18-2000 05:20:05




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 Re: Re: Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long) in reply to Bob (KY), 07-17-2000 17:48:16  
Actually, I went to the JD dealer to get a belt for my JD garden tractor. I saw the teeny little 8N sitting between a huge green combine and a huge green tractor and, of course, was instantly attracted to the best-looking one of the bunch. I'll never admit to lust, but I do concede I started twitching a bit when I saw the foot accelerator and the over-under tranny.



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Elwood

07-17-2000 16:54:48




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 Re: Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long) in reply to rossow (mn), 07-17-2000 10:45:41  
You got a good deal,If you do get buyers remorse you just bring it up to me.Im only about 100 miles away and would be glad to take it off your hands.Its interesting that you got it from a JD dealer because that is where I have picked up 3 of mine from also.They apparently have green on the brain and dont know a good deal when they see one,but then again what do I know about john deere.



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Dennis in Denver

07-17-2000 14:03:11




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 Re: Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long) in reply to rossow (mn), 07-17-2000 10:45:41  
Yes! You paid to much! I will buy it from you right now for the price you paid! I paid $2000 for mine this spring and it was way rougher than yours and I love it! You got a good deal!
D



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David

07-20-2000 19:50:49




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 Re: Re: Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long) in reply to Dennis in Denver, 07-17-2000 14:03:11  
After reading your post I am thinking seriously about buying a '52 model that I stopped to look at today. It was very clean, some painted over rust on the fender panels, however the toolbox and winged radiator cap were still there and in great shape. It includes a brush hog that looked less than a year or two old.

Price: $3000

Should I got back and test drive it?



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rbell

07-17-2000 11:04:17




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 Re: Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long) in reply to rossow (mn), 07-17-2000 10:45:41  
well..... it dont sound to bad, with the going price of 8s around here. If it works for a couple of seasons you got a real deal, if it has to be overhauled next year you ain't go no real complaints.



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Jim WI

07-17-2000 10:54:48




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 Re: Bought 8N; N-Board forced me! (very long) in reply to rossow (mn), 07-17-2000 10:45:41  
Let's see. You got an 8N that runs pretty good WITH a belly mower for $2100 and you want to know if you did OK?

You paid way too much... Quick, I'll buy it from you for the same price before your wife finds out (I hate to see tractors be the cause of family trouble).

I paid $2000 for a 2N in about the same condition (a bit more rust) with no mower -- had to buy that later for another $1000. And I thought I'd done good!

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