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Flush tranny?

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2NguyINpa

07-17-2000 15:34:13




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I'm changing the milky colored tranny/hydraulic fluid in my 2N. I'm wondering if i should flush it with anything prior to replacing the fluid. (keroseine, etc.) Any suggestions would be apperciated.




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9n'er

07-17-2000 16:47:18




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 Re: Flush tranny? in reply to 2NguyINpa, 07-17-2000 15:34:13  
Elwood provides good advice and, if you can and are willing to pull those components it will save your knuckles and hands from reaching in and around them. I pulled the rear PTO, took off the axle trumpets, main differential gear, and removed the transmission cover. I went through about 8 gallons of gas and 3 gallons of kerosene to remove about 2.5" of crud...yes, it was that thick, and packed. I used stiff wires to reach in and around and used my hands to pull to the drain-holes. It worked, but it was a mess, but ya feel good cleaning it out. I then put the drain caps in, filled it with kerosene, let is settle some, then repeated the process. It's brainless, a mess, but again...fun as all git up...of course having beverage or two helps. CAREFUL with these combustibles of course...!!

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Vic

07-17-2000 17:18:35




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 Re: Re: Flush tranny? in reply to 9n'er, 07-17-2000 16:47:18  
Not to be picky, but cleaning with large quantities of raw gasoline in conjunction with "a beverage or two" might be an exceedingly bad mix. If you are going to use something as volatile as gasoline to clean, make sure you're in the middle of a field, have disconnected the battery, aren't using any electical products (even battery powered) and don't do anything to generate sparks, like hammering, grinding and the like.

Then, after you're done, it's Miller Time! :)

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9n'er

07-17-2000 17:54:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Flush tranny? in reply to Vic, 07-17-2000 17:18:35  
YES Vic; you're not being too picky. Safety and common sense 110% of the time (I almost, and should have deleted that "beverage statement"). Exercised all precaution with gas, storage; ...battery and electricals were stripped and removed, in the open...outside, and drainpans in place to catch the crud. Rags in flammable storage container and doused when finished. In fact, I almost refrained from posting this method...because there needs to be extreme caution for cleaning this way. I found that other fluids just didn't cut through that kind of crud...60 years of dust, grease, and fluids. THANK YOU FOR YOUR NOTE. take note...this method exposes risk of fire and explosion if not handled correctly! BE SAFE, NO SMOKING! BE SMART. THINK AHEAD...stay alive. a good reminder Vic. thanks.

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Vic

07-17-2000 19:26:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Flush tranny? in reply to 9n'er, 07-17-2000 17:54:23  
It sure is easy to feel like you're going overboard on safety matters. Then again, I know of a lady who lost her two sons, husband, and home on a Sunday morning because "the boys" decided work on their motorcycle in the basement. Not a pretty picture. Not a nice way to go, either.

So I apologize if I sound condescending or preachy, but a lot of things in this hobby are very unforgiving. Gasoline is certainly one of them...

By the way 9Ner, congratulations on the restoration! Sounds beautiful! I have a feeling that you're like me--you're a perfectionist and see every tiny flaw in the work you do, even though you probably would never notice it on somebody else's tractor. We probably need a support group.

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9N'er

07-18-2000 10:57:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Flush tranny? in reply to Vic, 07-17-2000 19:26:00  
Hi Vic: I'm not sure if it's a strength or a weakness to see my own flaws and places where I could better if I just slow down and think it through. But you're right about something...)as in the case of tractors along with other things) I wouldn't notice anything or any flaw on anyone else's or would even consider looking for them. It's just fun to see the pride of ownership many people have in these machines. I'm in the process of fitting the hood, lower side panels and front grill...what a pain this is...nothing lines up, nothing fits, big air gaps along the length of the lower panel and front grill etc. And I thought this was going to be easy. I'm looking at several hours or more fitting these pieces and fabricating parts, drilling, lining up etc. Then it's taking that assembly and fitting it to the tractor! Oh man, this could be an entire days' project.

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Vic

07-18-2000 19:26:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Flush tranny? in reply to 9N'er, 07-18-2000 10:57:31  
Yeah, and the only thing more annoying than all the little problems with the project is when it's all over and you realize you don't have anything left to do on it. That's when you finally realize you were having a blast all along...



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Salmoneye

07-17-2000 16:57:58




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 Re: Re: Flush tranny? in reply to 9n'er, 07-17-2000 16:47:18  
Whoa!
I suppose I had better be getting in there and have a look-see! If you found that much gunk, I would agree that just straight flushing will do next to no good!

Paul II, In Vermont



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Elwood

07-17-2000 17:14:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Flush tranny? in reply to Salmoneye, 07-17-2000 16:57:58  
IT all depends on how much maintanence your tractor has recieved.Mine had been neglected in that area and had many years of accumulation.Next time I change it im sure a simple flush will do.



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Elwood

07-17-2000 16:35:17




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 Re: Flush tranny? in reply to 2NguyINpa, 07-17-2000 15:34:13  
I would pull the pto shaft,remove the lift cover and drop the hydralic pump if this is your first change.Have pulled 2 of mine down and the gunk in the bottom is a good inch thick,I cant imagine a simple flush would remove this much crud.Gaskets are less than $10.00 to do the job and you can get it all cleaned up easily when it is apart.It isnt as hard as it sounds and can be done in an afternoon-the cleanup is messy but you will have great results and wont be running this stuff through your pump.

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Salmoneye

07-17-2000 15:57:17




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 Re: Flush tranny? in reply to 2NguyINpa, 07-17-2000 15:34:13  
I have seen posts suggesting that a kerosene flush is a good idea if you have water or excessive gunk in the tranny. It has been suggested that you pour the kero through more than once (after letting the gunk settle out the first time).
I have no water, in mine, but I am planning on draining the fluid and flushing tranny/hydraulics with kero before refilling. Just be sure and remember all 3 plugs and let the kero drain well before refilling. I have done this with a couple of engines (and have even cranked them by hand) and had great results.

Paul II, in Vermont

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