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Roger

08-21-2000 12:12:33




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A friend of mine is looking for a small ford or similar tractor for his new place. He's looking at a 9n that's been restored (haven't seen pictures yet). The current owner wants 5K for the tractor, 8K# trailer, boom pole, 2 bottom plow, 7 shank cultivator, rear blade, side mower, and disk. Seems like a good deal if the tractor is in good shape. Actually I'm kind of wondering if he's not a bit low.

I'm wondering what you think? I'm half tempted to get it myself if my friend passes.

Thanks,

Roger.

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Fred OH

08-22-2000 00:40:25




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 Re: Need your help in reply to Roger, 08-21-2000 12:12:33  
Most generally the last thing to get worked on is the frontend. Grab hold of a front wheel and rock it real hard from front to back. If it's got a good bit of play in it, consider the restore to be just cosmetically done. There should be no play in it if it has been restored. Some refer to it as a liquid restore (paint job). Some honest fellows will even show the receipts where they had an engine or other parts rebuilt. Hook up an implement to it and raise it up. Shut the engine off,with the oil cold, it should hold up 300 to 400 pounds for 10 minutes before the hydraulics creep down. These are a couple of things you can do to get a ballpark feel. L8R----Fred

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bg

08-21-2000 21:13:01




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 Re: Need your help in reply to Roger, 08-21-2000 12:12:33  
Do the math. Trailer should be around $1000-1500; sickle-bar-$150; plow $100-150; cultivator-$150; disk-$300;blade-$175; pole $50; tractor $2700-3000. Sounds reasonable enough if everything is in good shape. Add points if all equipment is all matching vintage Ford, Dearborn or Ferguson; deduct if R.O.M. aftermarket stuff, D.O.C.



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Roger

08-21-2000 22:47:12




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 Re: Re: Need your help in reply to bg, 08-21-2000 21:13:01  
I wasn't sure on the implement pricing or the the value of a restored 9n.

Is there a large value difference between the 3 N series tractors - assuming comparable levels of restoration?

I haven't looked closely, however, from what I've noticed it seems the big difference comes with the Funk conversions.

Any input here would be appreciated.

Roger.



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bg

08-22-2000 06:51:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Need your help in reply to Roger, 08-21-2000 22:47:12  
There is little difference between the 9N and 2N, except for the first 2N's which may have had steel wheels, magnetos, hand crank-starting and no charging system. The 8N came with a 4-speed tranny, improved hydraulics(position control) and later ones had a proofmeter(tachometer/hour meter)and the spiffy red/gray overcoat. The 8N also had both brakes on the right side of the transmission housing, as opposed to the 9/2N which had the left brake and clutch on the left side, which was a little unhandy and potentially dangerous.
What you pay all depends on what you're looking for and what you want to do with the tractor. If you're a collector, such things as early models, matching serial numbers, originality, vintage equipment and accessories, owner's manuals, receipts and maintenance records will mean more to you than if you just want a tractor to play with. If you just want to cut grass and drag roads, etc., mechanical condition and features will be worth more than the originality and provenance.

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Dale O'9N

08-21-2000 23:06:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Need your help in reply to Roger, 08-21-2000 22:47:12  
The market in VA seems to support a better price on 8Ns over 9Ns of equal condition. However, if the 9N is rare ( early 39 ) then there is no telling. I've noticed a $500.00 price difference on average. It all comes down to condition. If it is all original, in good shape, and running well, then you should be willing to pay more. The time it takes to replace parts along with the costs, will soon undermine the low price. It's worth it to find one that needs the least parts replaced. Now back to prices, I've seen 9Ns that are all original and restored correctly, go for more than some nice looking 8Ns. It's all in what you want. Didn't go on to long I hope. Dale in VA.

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Sam (Mo.)

08-21-2000 12:36:04




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 Re: Need your help in reply to Roger, 08-21-2000 12:12:33  
It sounds like a good deal - but everything depends on the condition of the tractor and equipment. There are many different degrees of "restored", especially when that word is used in the description of something for sale.

There's no way to restore an "N" tractor to factory-new condition for as little as $5000 invested - not if your labor has any value at all. So, if the condition of that tractor is anywhere near what "restored" implies, and with all the other equipment thrown in, it sounds like a great deal. Check it all out thoroughly, of course.

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Jim.UT

08-22-2000 14:20:36




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 Re: Re: Need your help in reply to Sam (Mo.), 08-21-2000 12:36:04  
"There's no way to restore an "N" tractor to factory-new condition for as little as $5000 invested"

You oughta know, eh? Nice job, Sam (didn't get a chance to say that earlier).



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