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Rick

09-04-2000 19:41:46




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I have an 8n with a 12 volt conversion. I am using a 1amp 50 volt diode in the place of a side marker lamp. It has a front mount dist. I initially installed the diode in reverse and the alt. would not seem to pull up. When I reversed the diode to the correct way, the alt. then was able to excite, but my problem is that now it is registering too many amps at higher rpms. It is a 49 8n. At idle the ammeter has a reading of approx 5 amps. At mid throttle the reading is approx 15 to 20 amps, and at full throttle the ammeter is pegged out at 30 amps. Any leads in how to get this alt to operate in a more acceptable range would be appreciated. The battery is new, within 6 mths. All wiring has been stripped and re-done as per Niel's wiring diagram. I don't want to burn up this battery!!!
Thanks in advance for any help. I have been working on this 8n for a while,it was in very rough shape when I got it, but I'm almost to the point where I can see "see the light at the end of the tunnel".

Rick 8N 245054

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Claus

09-05-2000 04:21:11




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 Re: Too many amps in reply to Rick, 09-04-2000 19:41:46  
If you are still charging 20 amps while the battery voltage is 14 volts or higher you will boil out the electrolyte. Most likely the voltage regulator is not working. Make sure that terminal number 2 on Delco Altinator is seeing the battery voltage. There should be a jumper from this terminal to the output terminal (Bat) on the altinator. If terminal 2 has bat voltage on it, replace the voltage regulator. These are inexpensive, although most auto parts stores only will sell the whole rebuild kit.. Not a bad idea since it only costs about $13.00.. Scribe the case of the altinator for reassembly.. Use tooth picks to hold the brushes while reassembly. Take some fine emmery cloth and clean the slip rings....
A 2 beer job at the most...
Happy Motoring
Claus

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JerryU

09-05-2000 04:38:31




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 Re: Re: Too many amps in reply to Claus, 09-05-2000 04:21:11  
Claus-

Glad to see you have reinstuted the "Beer Standard" for labor. This was widely used in the early years of the Board. I know Mr. Neff heavily utilized it, but I believe dave#1 may have spent hours perfecting it.

JerryU



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Claus

09-05-2000 05:07:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Too many amps in reply to JerryU, 09-05-2000 04:38:31  
Yes....Howsomever, if you use Dave # 1 standard, it must be factored by diving it by 2.. otherwise the average person will make a mess of things..
But it does improve mind reading. Dell, are you getting this? (Grin) :-) Very Happy Motoring
Claus



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yes......Dell (WA)

09-05-2000 09:03:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Too many amps in reply to Claus, 09-05-2000 05:07:28  
Since my grandfather was head brewmister at Coors before prohibition and I had 5 uncles that worked for Aldolph, I do support the family business (grin).

BTW Dave#1..... my uncle claimed that all you had to do was to add an ICECUBE to regular beer to get LITE beer.

Personally, I don't drink decaff, lo-cal, or lite anything. If I'm going to sin, I want to know about it..... Dell



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Claus

09-05-2000 12:20:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Too many amps in reply to yes......Dell (WA), 09-05-2000 09:03:18  
Who he heck is Aldolph? How do they keep the ice cube from melting when the store the Lite Beer?
I heard of a Brewmaster or a Braumeister but never a Brewmister.. You probably run high test in your tractor too... :-)
Claus



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sometimes......

09-05-2000 13:22:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Too many amps in reply to Claus, 09-05-2000 12:20:44  
the spil cker gon werk tu wil..... (grin) Dell



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Battery is low?

09-04-2000 20:22:52




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 Re: Too many amps in reply to Rick, 09-04-2000 19:41:46  
Rick- Give some thought to that the battery may simply be low on charge, from running when the exciter diode was hooked up wrong. Now, it could be that the alternator is simply doing what it's supposed to do.

Try just letting the thing run at fast idle, an engine speed that'll show 10 to 15 amps charge, for an hour or so. Then, check & top up the battery water if needed. Let it run and charge for another hour or so.

The voltage regulator is voltage sensitive and will trigger the alternator, or generator, to "do it's best". Gotta keep in mind modern alternators have an amperage output capability far beyond what most old farm tractors need.

Hence, instead of lots of that amps capacity being soaked up running accesories in a car or truck, it all goes to fast charging the battery.

Do a voltmeter check on what the system is doing. In the 13.8 to 14.2 volt range charging current into the battery should be rather low. If you see voltage above 14.5, or below 13.2, that means there is a problem in the system. Get to somebody with a Sun VAT-28 or VAT-40 tester and they should be able to sort it fast out and correct the problem.

Like I said, off the top my guess is that the battery is just down and the system is doing some "catch up" now that you got the exciter diode right. Good luck, offered and hoped 'tis not needed, IHank

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