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Russ in SoCal

09-08-2000 02:04:08




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My wife the reporter received this notice from the county Sheriff's office. Please be careful.

NEWS RELEASE KERN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
CORONER DIVISION

This news release is prepared under the direction of the Sheriff-Coroner-Public Administrator for the convenience of news reporters. Facts concerning news events of major importance, which occur after the preparation of this release, will be made available to reporters at their request as soon as it is possible to do so.

DECEDENTS NAME: Paul Watson CASE #: C-1377-00
CITY OF RESIDENCE: Wasco, CA AGE: 74 years
TYPE OF CASE: Apparent Accident/Crushed
DATE OF INCIDENT: September 7, 2000 TIME: Unknown A.M.
LOCATION: Approximately 2 miles south of State Route 46 & 5/8 mile west of Wildwood Road, Wasco
DATE OF DEATH: September 7, 2000 TIME: 1227 hours
PLACE OF DEATH: Kern Medical Center - Emergency Department
INVESTIGATING AGENCY: Kern Co. Coroner's Office

Details: An unwitnessed incident in which the decedent was run over by a tractor.

Comments: Cause of death pending autopsy examination

CARL SPARKS, Sheriff-Coroner

By: Vicki Johnson, Deputy Coroner Investigator
Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000
Time: 15:46:58

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Sam (Mo.)

09-08-2000 14:49:30




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 Re: Another accident in reply to Russ in SoCal, 09-08-2000 02:04:08  
Yeah, I about "got myself kilt" on the tractor a couple of weeks ago. I don't know much I can do to avoid something like this though, other than to just quit using the tractor the way I do.

We own some commercial property about 1 1/2 miles from our house, and my Mom's property is 1 mile away in the same direction. I use the 8N to mow both places as well as my own - and I drive it there on the road in 4th gear. These are paved back roads with little traffic, but people drive too fast.

That day I had made the trip OK, and was about to make the left turn into the driveway of the commercial property. I was wide open in 4th gear, and a car was following me at the same slow speed. Nothing coming in the opposite direction, I glanced back and looked at the car following - no problem, so I made a big "left turn" hand signal, then when I reached the driveway depressed the clutch and swung across the left lane. SCREECHING BRAKES from behind - a car sliding with all four wheels locked up! Nothing I could do but keep going and try to get out of the road, and the car swerved just behind the tractor and barely missed me. A young woman (17 or 18) was coming up from behind at maybe 50 mph and had swung out to pass the slow car that was following me. After missing me she just kept going, and it still shakes me up to see the skid marks that are on the road there.

The family is griping at me about driving on the road, and they have a point. I could trailer the tractor to both places, but that means loading and unloading SIX times to mow the two places - that's much more work than the mowing is. My wife says she's going to follow me in the car, but I think that makes it worse - just like the slow car that was following me when this happened, that's why the teenager didn't see the tractor.

The only thing I can think of is not to make left turns when any cars are around. I may just pull off on the shoulder and wait until it's clear in both directions before going across. Sorry for the length of this post, but what do you think? Do you have any other suggestions for making this deal a little safer?

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tim[in]

09-09-2000 10:35:08




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 Re: Re: Another accident in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-08-2000 14:49:30  
if half the red light is white it is ok. blue lights are generally volunteer firemen . red ,white green oramber should be ok. also a tall red flag similar to what you see on a golf course is what was used before smvs and fancy electronic gadgets came along. a flag with some reflective tape can help some. there are also battery operated flashing lights similar to those used on road barricades . unless you have a roll bar i would be extremley careful about pulling of side of roads. plus you could cut a tire!! now you guys know what i go thru hauling a semi load of gasoline every day !!!lol =)

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Don8NAZ

09-08-2000 18:38:59




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 Re: Re: Another accident in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-08-2000 14:49:30  
For what it is worth, you might want to take a look at JC Whitney's catalog. They have several yellow strobe lights at reasonable prices that will work right on down to 6v.

Mount the sucker to the end of a length of electrical conduit. Pound the other end of the conduit flat, drill a couple of holes and mount the assembly to the tractor sidewall or whatever. Make the length of the conduit long enough to place the strobe above most passenger cars tailing you. You can run the electrical wires inside or outside the conduit. Terminate the wires with a couple of aligator clips (radio shack) and hook them to your battery while you're on the highway.

Remember, yellow is the correct color for farm equipment strobes on the highway in most states. If you use red, white or blue, you will probably get a ticket.

Now that you have drawn attention to yourself, may I also suggest that you get a cheap farm equipment reflective triangle to hang on the back of your tractor while it's on the highway.

Don8NAZ

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tlak

09-08-2000 17:25:33




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 Re: Re: Another accident in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-08-2000 14:49:30  
I like your ideal of pulling off to the right. You might put some lights on the back, at least some flashers.



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tlak

09-08-2000 14:34:34




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 Re: Another accident in reply to Russ in SoCal, 09-08-2000 02:04:08  
Alot of the people killed where past 65+. I guess its hard to give up your tractor or drivers license when your past your prime or maybe they dont recognize the signs. He probably had $10,000+ in equipment that he owned and could have sold. This would have paid for mowing the rest of his life. But he might have been like me, where I'll have to work till I'm 150 to be able to retire.



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CAGMO

09-08-2000 09:33:43




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 Re: Another accident in reply to Russ in SoCal, 09-08-2000 02:04:08  
That's say a city boy bought a farm and then he bought a tractor. He's never been around tractors. I don't want this helpfull machine to kill me!! Where would one find out about tractor safety? I get on the tractor, start it up and go!!



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lets be careful out there. . . . .Dell (WA)

09-08-2000 07:02:19




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 Re: Another accident in reply to Russ in SoCal, 09-08-2000 02:04:08  
If it weren't for the horribleness of the tragedy, it would almost be humorous reading the lawyer stuff at the beginning of the press release.

"This news release is prepared under the direction of the Sheriff-Coroner-Public Administrator for the convenience of news reporters. Facts concerning news events of major importance, which occur after the preparation of this release, will be made available to reporters at their request as soon as it is possible to do so."

My condolences to the family of the decedent..... now they got me doing it..... Dell, the self-appointed safety preacher

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just did avoid one...Dale O'9N

09-08-2000 05:15:34




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 Re: Another accident in reply to Russ in SoCal, 09-08-2000 02:04:08  
A few weeks ago I went out to start the 9N up. After checking over things as I do before cranking, I fired her up. She runs so well now that she fires on the first turnover. That was bad on this day since, like a fool I had left it in gear the day before. Guess after so many years of leaving the truck in gear, this is a hard habit to break. Checking the shifter is a part of my once over prior to starting now. The thing nearly went up and through the wall in the barn. That's as close as I care to come to disaster. Hope we all take the time to be safe. Dale in VA.

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Claus

09-08-2000 07:15:47




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 Re: Re: Another accident in reply to just did avoid one...Dale O'9N, 09-08-2000 05:15:34  
Ok... what is the rest of the story? What happened to your safety starter transmission interlock. When I bought my tractor, some mentally challanged person had installed a starter push button on the dash. Apparently the starter switch on the shifter was no longer operative. $21.00 and .5 hrs work cured that problem...
Happy and safe tractoring
Claus



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hey busdriver

09-08-2000 16:45:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Another accident in reply to Claus, 09-08-2000 07:15:47  
I got the same problem, everything worked like it should with the old six volt system, then I changed over to twelve volt, a year and a half later my starter quit working, took it to a automotive starter rebuilder. He rebuilt the starter, now the switch didn't work, took it back and he claimed must the the switch, and told me with a negative ground system, I needed a new 2 wire switch.Being that my tractor is 170 miles away, he showed me how to wire it up, wired it up, now eliminating the safety switch. Belive me I am not an electrical person, and do only as advised, works good but I must remember to start in neutral or with foot on clutch, even when it was working I always started with foot on clutch.

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Claus

09-09-2000 06:45:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Another accident in reply to hey busdriver, 09-08-2000 16:45:34  
It used to surprise me of all of the misinformation one gets from one supposedly in the field. Perhaps the switch was the problem all along and the guy sold you a rebuild job on the starter. And now the switch did not work? It worked ok for a year and a half with the negative ground and now you need a new switch because of it. That guy needs to find a new profession.
Happy Motoring
Claus



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hey busdriver

09-09-2000 22:59:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another accident in reply to Claus, 09-09-2000 06:45:38  
Maybe not this case, when I took the starter off I had it checked before leaving it, it showed a short in the armature field. Could this cause the switch to burn out after by continuing to try it?
Also the selinoid was also changed would this have any effect? Thanks Stan



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Dale O'9N

09-08-2000 09:20:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Another accident in reply to Claus, 09-08-2000 07:15:47  
OK, you had to go there. That needs to be changed. This is how it was when I got it this spring. I understand there is spos'ta be a safety on this thing. Do I get it from NH dealer, or ford? Also, are there directions on this site for this project? It sounds simple enough. I know, I know. If it's changed this will never happen again. It's Looking like I just found my next project. Thanks for the reply Claus. Dale in VA.

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Walt 8N123??

09-08-2000 11:43:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another accident in reply to Claus, 09-08-2000 09:43:19  
I'm gulity, But I do have a new starter switch that I order from Don. will try to install it this weekend.



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Dale O'9N

09-08-2000 09:59:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another accident in reply to Claus, 09-08-2000 09:43:19  
Claus. It looks like original equipment. I can't see any bypass. When I rebuilt the steering, it all looked like pictures I've seen of original. An old farmer told me that ford had a recall way back then to replace this with different switch or something. Could this one have just never been fixed? Thanks for going easy on me. After all I did FESS UP. Lets use this as an opportunity to get everyone to have these fixed.

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Claus

09-08-2000 13:59:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another accident in reply to Dale O'9N, 09-08-2000 09:59:41  
There is a story and I do not know if it is folklore or whatever. Seems that Henry was demonstrating the tractor and was standing next to the tractor and turned in the ignition switch and the tractor almost ran over his foot..then he ordered the engineering department to fix the proglem. I do not know if there were any made without the safety interlock. Perhaps a Ford history buff has the answer.
Claus

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