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Trenching with a plow

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Sam (Mo.)

09-27-2000 18:01:00




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I tried something new today, and it worked so well I thought I should post it - in case it might help someone else.

I'm running 100 yards of 4" drain pipe from the gutter downspouts of our house to a pond down the hill. This should help keep the pond topped up, even in dry years like this one. Water won't be standing in the pipe as it's about a 1-in-6 slope, so the pipe doesn't need to be buried very deep. I was going to rent a Ditch Witch or backhoe, then I remembered "the old plow".

I got this homemade two-bottom plow for $50 a few years ago, and it's great for plowing the garden. The plow blades are stamped "Oliver" and someone welded it up to a drawbar, fixed it to work on a three-point hitch, and painted it JD green (yeah, I know, I gotta do something about that someday).

Anyway, I found that by shortening my top link all the way, I could dig a trench 12" deep with the front blade. If I had removed the back blade, it would have gone 6" deeper, but I didn't need it that deep. I went over it several times, and as the pictures show, it really worked slick (even in this rocky ground). I got the whole thing dug and the pipe in, by myself, all in one day. Something else the 8N will do - there's just no end to it! :>) Sam

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hey busdriver

09-28-2000 23:19:59




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
Nice job Sam, I also done some work with my plow other than in the field or the garden. I removed a steep hill (6 ft) using my plow to loosen the soil and then used a rear blade and a scoup to build a safer slope. I taped camper levels on my tractor to level the area where my camp fire is located, plowed and leveled with my blade an area to set my chairs on without tipping over. You can do a lot of work with a plow to save back work. My recreational property is all slopes and have leveled a quite a few areas.
Stan

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dan from mi

09-28-2000 21:31:07




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
if you had to go out and buy and implement to trench would a subsoiler. plow or middle buster be the best?



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Charlie in TX

09-29-2000 07:29:28




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 Re: Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to dan from mi, 09-28-2000 21:31:07  
I am not an expert but IMO and for my type of ground a plow is the most useful. Your milage may vary.



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Charlie in TX

09-28-2000 10:00:49




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
I am in the process of building a barn with a concrete floor. I used a single plow to predig the beems. This ground was baked clay (105+degrees). Once I got the plow thru the top layer, it took about 5 munites to bet them beems.



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Old Ag

09-28-2000 07:48:30




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
Great Pics! Shortening that top-link sure helps dig deep. Worked the same way for me in seed-bed prep just yesterday. I was barely turning the topsoil when I sortened the top link all the way and really did some ground breakin'.

Thanks for sharing.

Old Ag
41 9N



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Jim (MO)

09-28-2000 06:50:31




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
Good pics, Sam and an even better idea. I was about to buy a middle buster for that very thing but think I might borrow the neighbors two bottom now.

Thanks,
Jim Sutherland



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Nolan

09-28-2000 05:13:40




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
I tried to cut a trench with the same type of double plow set up, and got nothing but a mess. Thank you, now I see how I could perhaps be successfull the next time. Think I'll practice where no one can see me first though. :-)



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Redbelly1

09-28-2000 04:17:00




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
around here (upper s.c.) we have alot of rain every spring. i've used an old harry ferguson deep disc plow to dig trenches around our garden spot to keep the field from getting to soggy. if it works....do it.

good looking equipment.



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Dave 2N

09-28-2000 05:35:59




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 Re: Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Redbelly1, 09-28-2000 04:17:00  
I've used my plows to build mild diversion ditches on my place. Just something to get the runoff moving the way you want it to go. I have a wet spot on the hill behind my house. The water always hit the garden and washed out the driveway. After a couple of furrows in the proper direction, the garden stayed in place and my driveway required no work.



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Dave 50 8N

09-27-2000 21:49:32




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
I've ditched with my middlebuster too. Had to do a lot of shovel work to get the loose dirt/rocks out of the ditch. Sounds like the plow works better. thanks for the info!



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Dale O'9N

09-27-2000 20:17:46




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
Thanks for the idea. I need to run power out to my new shed. The boat and the tractor live out there and they need some lights at night. I'll get some UG cable and do it next week I hope. Nice looking 8N by the way. You didn't think I was looking at that did you. Dale in VA.



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CHRIS-MF35

09-28-2000 01:01:02




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 Re: Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Dale O'9N, 09-27-2000 20:17:46  
hey dale, that ditch needs to be at least 2 foot deep the meet national electic code, your homeowners insurance does care. if you run it in rigid metal conduit it only needs to be 6 inchs deep. good luck.



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Scott HouTex

09-28-2000 08:17:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to CHRIS-MF35, 09-28-2000 01:01:02  
Dale, for residential driveways and outdoor
parking areas, 18" is the code required
depth for wire in conduit (PVC or steel)
as well as direct burial rated wire. All conditions are given in Table 300-5
of the National Electric Code. Some local
jursdictions may vary.



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Dale O'9N

09-28-2000 05:57:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to CHRIS-MF35, 09-28-2000 01:01:02  
Your right. I've got the pipe left over from an old job just waiting for me to put the wire in it. Don't want to hit it later do we? Thanks for the point. Dale in VA.



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Bud

09-27-2000 18:28:41




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
I've done the same thing using a middle buster type of plow. I ran water, phone and electrical power lines about 500 feet to my shop/barn. Worked real slick and made a nice deep trench. The problem around here in this part of Texas is that you never have enough dirt to fill the hole back up. This has always frustrated me when digging post holes etc. One old farmer told me to always dig when there is a full moon. I jokingly tried it and I swear it does work! Incredible!

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Sam (Mo.)

09-27-2000 18:37:06




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 Re: Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Bud, 09-27-2000 18:28:41  
I swear that old stuff works! Six years ago I used the tractor and a PHD to build a wood fence around our six acres and up the driveway. The posts that I set in the dark of the moon are loose, but the ones I set in the full of the moon are still solid - just like the old Ozarks farmers tried to tell me at the time!



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Snow Plow

09-27-2000 18:17:55




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
I have a big old Dearborn 18" one bottom that works great for the same task. I have used it to make small run off ditches across feilds. I flop the sod on the down hill side and I can help control some spring drainage problems.

I also used it to cut a trench for a sump pump line from the basement. It flopped the lawn right over I ran the pipe then floped it back by hand. Didn't kill and grass! Clean as a whistle!

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Gaspump

09-27-2000 18:14:07




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 Re: Trenching with a plow in reply to Sam (Mo.), 09-27-2000 18:01:00  
That's a down to earth, grass roots solution to the trenching problem! Nice pictures too! Thanks for the input. Oh by the way, Olivers were green too.



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