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Hydraluic ram remove on tractor?

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Rick in UT

10-20-2000 08:39:41




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I need to replace the rings on the hydraluic ram piston. Can I remove the Ram Cylinder without taking the lift cover off? It is leaking a steady small stream when I raise my implement up. I do have an I&T F04 manual, but it doesn't address this.




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gwp

10-20-2000 12:49:02




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 Re: hydraluic ram remove on tractor? in reply to Rick in UT, 10-20-2000 08:39:41  
That is the most frequent problem I've had with my Jubilee. There is a place on the gasket between the lift cover and the cylinder that blows out if I try to lift something too heavy. This may be your problem if the fluid is escaping somewhere other than thru the cylinder. It's very hard to see this area. You can remove the PTO lever plate and usually determine though. Regardless, you will have to remove the lift cover from the tractor. If you've never done this before, keep in mind that the lift cover is 10 times heavier than it looks. Don't get a hernia doing it. Get some help or winch it up from a rafter. The best way to hold it while working on it is to put the front edge of the cover in a large vice. Though it may seem that it could fall, if you squeeze it down good it'll be OK. Good Luck...Gary

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10-20-2000 08:54:08




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 Re: hydraluic ram remove on tractor? in reply to Rick in UT, 10-20-2000 08:39:41  
Hmm.. I wonder if you worked through a side inspection hole and had someone lift the arms for you if you could get it to pop out the end. Problem is getting it back in would be a real booger, especially if you use the NAA piston and O ring. On second thought, unless you are double jointed and have small but powerful arms, better pul the top cover.Then you will have lots of fun pieces to look at and clean!

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bg

10-20-2000 08:52:19




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 Re: hydraluic ram remove on tractor? in reply to Rick in UT, 10-20-2000 08:39:41  
Nope. Take the seat off. Remove the cover. Get a gasket set when you get the ring set. There's 4 bolts that hold the cylinder to the cover. You might consider using an NAA piston with o-ring($20.) instead of the steel-ring piston. Check the cylinder for scoring, pitting, etc. Minor scratches can be honed out with a dril-mounted hone. While you're in there check the cam follower pin for wear and replace it if necessary. Adjust the draft springs. Whole thing shouldn't take more than a couple of hours.

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bg

10-20-2000 08:51:50




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 Re: hydraluic ram remove on tractor? in reply to Rick in UT, 10-20-2000 08:39:41  
Nope. Take the seat off. Remove the cover. Get a gasket set when you get the ring set. There's 4 bolts that hold the cylinder to the cover. You might consider using an NAA piston with o-ring($20.) instead of the steel-ring piston. Check the cylinder for scoring, pitting, etc. Minor scratches can be honed out with a dril-mounted hone. While you're in there check the cam follower pin for wear and replace it if necessary. Adjust the draft springs. Whole thing shouldn't take more than a couple of hours.

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Timk

10-20-2000 12:01:52




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 Re: Re: hydraluic ram remove on tractor? in reply to bg, 10-20-2000 08:51:50  
I agree. I don't think so either. Besides what bg said, I don't know how you would get the piston out since you can't turn it on it's side or blow air thru it to force the piston out. An once the piston was out, you really need it on the bench to force it back in ! Definately go to the "o" ring and leather set up. Be sure to soak the leather in hot water for awhile or you'll break it when you try to put it on. If you have the old style steel rings, I'll give you 50/50 that the ram cylinder will be to heavily scratched to save. So, take a hard look at it if you have to hone it to make sure it's smooth. My $.02

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