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Pat Horne

01-30-2002 06:02:44




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A friend of mine just bought a '40 N9 but doesn't know anything about its maintenance. I use farmalls, so I am not much help to him.

I couldn't find maintenance information on line, so I hope someone can direct me to it.

We are looking for information on what types of fluids go where, where to put them in and how to check them.

This n9 is used to pull a shreader and after a day of shreading the engine oil was down about half a quart. This sounds excessive, but it doesn't seem to be burning oil. so he is just going to keep a close eye on the oil to make sure he has enough.

Thanks for your help!

Peace,
Pat

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kraig WY

01-30-2002 15:46:44




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 Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to Pat Horne, 01-30-2002 06:02:44  
Getting a manuel is the best ideal however I have a ford 850 gas. It gets to 1/2 qt. low I add a 1/2 qt. It would use or leak it and quit. I found it goes to 1/2 qt. down and quits using or leaking. It just wants to stay 1/2 qt low. I check it every time I use it and for some reason it stays 1/2 low. Maybe the dipsticks 1/2 qt off or whatever. Long as it dosen't use or leak any more I'm happy.

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TimK

01-30-2002 09:05:24




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 Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to Pat Horne, 01-30-2002 06:02:44  
Down to 1/2 quart ? Na, no way. If you were down that low, your oil pickup would have been lost, with the engine seizing up shortly thereafter. While I'm not disputing you are both using and losing oil, I think your dip stick is wrong. My $.02



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jimpCO

01-30-2002 09:32:02




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 Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to TimK, 01-30-2002 09:05:24  
Tim, read his statement again. He said he was DOWN about 1/2 qt. And this is probably about right if the engine is burning some and is leaking some.



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ED-Illinois

01-30-2002 07:39:54




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 Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to Pat Horne, 01-30-2002 06:02:44  
I have a '46 2N that looses oil - the front crankshaft seal leaks as does the governor housing. Until it is time to do major engine work, I just keep an eye on the oil level, which, after all, is important no matter what the engine condition.

"Better out than in, I always say!"



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Sal

01-30-2002 08:16:37




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 Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to ED-Illinois, 01-30-2002 07:39:54  
Ed, Been watching 'Shrek' lately? LOL

-Sal



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Mike

01-30-2002 12:57:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to Sal, 01-30-2002 08:16:37  
What's a "Shrek"?
Mik



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ED-Illinois

01-30-2002 08:46:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to Sal, 01-30-2002 08:16:37  
"Swish!"

you got my obscure yet applicable reference



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Claus

01-30-2002 08:15:34




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 Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to ED-Illinois, 01-30-2002 07:39:54  
Better out than in????? I say 'Better in than out"
Happy Motoring
Claus



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ED-Illinois

01-30-2002 08:48:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to Claus, 01-30-2002 08:15:34  
Depends what we are talking about - if the choice is oil going out or say, water going in, then better out than in.

And if you have put together that I am just whistling in the graveyard , you are probably right.



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Oh, and while you're here... (ED-Illinois)

01-30-2002 07:45:50




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 Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to ED-Illinois, 01-30-2002 07:39:54  
here is a link to a discussion by one of our board members on the subject of transmission fluid

enjoy



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Tom-Pa

01-30-2002 12:10:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to Oh, and while you're here... (ED-Illinois), 01-30-2002 07:45:50  
Also check out this site for more good information.

Link



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and I'll add to that by saying . . .

01-30-2002 11:22:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to Oh, and while you're here... (ED-Illinois), 01-30-2002 07:45:50  
. . that with the closure of my local Quality Farm and Fleet, I went shopping for bargains and one of the bargains I got was several pails of the original-style 90-weight fluid "for older Ford tractors."

In the linked dissertation, there is some discussion of what API grade oil is that is sold under this generic designation. The original Ford spec called for "straight mineral oil", which would correspond to the present-day designation of GL1. Later Ford specs called for a "mild EP" oil, which would correspond to the present-day designation of GL3.

The concern is that the presence of additives to increase performance at high contact pressures (typically compounds of sulfur and phosphorus) may eat up some of the bronze bushings used in the N transmission. This may be especially an issue in the 9N/2N (three-speed) transmission, which was designed and specified before gear oil with significant additives became commonly used.

The oil which I bought on sale was Farm King brand, it was specifically labelled "for use in older Ford tractors", and because I bought a bunch of it, I got the manufacturer's overpack with it, and this specifically lists this oil as being of API grade GL1. A quick sniff tells that it does have some level of sulfur additives, but if it meets that designation, the level must be low enough that it doesn't even make API grade GL2. My guess would be that that is not enough to worry about.

Hope this clarifies.

llater,

llamas

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Gaspump

01-30-2002 16:05:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to and I'll add to that by saying . . . , 01-30-2002 11:22:07  
Sounds like you made a very nice purchase. You can't even find GL3 in this area. I searched for and found, Recip. aircraft break in oil, 40W which is equal to about 85W gear oil. It is SMO and is obsoleted by our good old government so many oil distributors are stuck with this product and you can buy 24 qt. cases at a good price. Just another source should someone need it.



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bj/8N/mt

01-30-2002 06:10:31




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 Re: Newbie friend needs maintenance help in reply to Pat Horne, 01-30-2002 06:02:44  
Take your friend to a Ford N H dealer or any place they sell tractor manuals and get him to part with the thirty buckos an I T F04 manual will cost. A hundred pages of N series info for around a quarter a page.

Your mileage may vary



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