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68 Mag

02-02-2002 18:06:02




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Just curious. How can you tell a 9N/2N cast aluminum grill at a glance? Are they the only ones with horizontal bars? How rare are they, and what is one worth, alone and with a cast aluminum hood?

Now, a real nice find.I went to a local farmer's place recently to pick up an old tire to cut up, and he had a truck. Not just any truck, a '64 Ford flatbed with a V6 and six speed transmission. Mine for 550. Now I just have to go pick it up...and Dave, he had an El-Camino, and a set of ladder racks (racks were for a different truck), but I doubt it would have the space to transport you and all the supplies you would need to eat Cornflakes on your Farmall red 8N every morning. ;)

"Rambling"

68 Mag

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Frank Fox

02-04-2002 22:21:26




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 Re: Cast aluminum grills in reply to 68 Mag, 02-02-2002 18:06:02  
No 1964 Ford Vee-sixes only in line six cylinder's. Iffen it has a Vee-six some one ruened the truck. FYI
Foxie



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TractorMike

02-04-2002 18:38:21




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 Re: Cast aluminum grills in reply to 68 Mag, 02-02-2002 18:06:02  
Hey 68Mag, At your age, how do you finance your projects? Just wondering. TractorMike



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9N'er

02-03-2002 00:57:49




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 Re: Cast aluminum grills in reply to 68 Mag, 02-02-2002 18:06:02  
original aluminum grilles are rare. They often were susecptible to cracking and breaking and there was, at one point an exchange program offered by Ford to trade in your cast aluminum stuff for cast steel...once the steel factory was able to produce steel hoods and grilles.

It took some time to stock steel components so Ford's son-in-law (or a business relation...story eludes me right now so I don't have it all straight) whom owned an aluminum foundry cast the first aluminum hoods and grilles to get the tractor out on the street and into the fields.

Only 700-900 (depending on your source) of the 1939 9N's had cast aluminum hoods.

Seems like there were more grilles made than hoods because they continued on into 1940...mated with steel hoods.

Yes, horizontal bars. Check out my tractor on the Photo Section of this board... 1940 9N TM.

I have since added the original rear hat rims and tires and large center disc.

Ferguson TO's look similar to N types from a distance...and the horizontal bars on the grille are a telltale sign of a Ferguson or early 9N. But the differences become apparent upon closer inspection. When I see a TO, I usually stop to check it out, to see if by chance that it is an early 9N.

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Fast Ed Ohio

02-02-2002 23:04:49




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 Re: Cast aluminum grills in reply to 68 Mag, 02-02-2002 18:06:02  
I could never get a magnet to stick on aluminum , I also question v6 engine in a 64 ford , am I nuts or what ?



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bjt

02-02-2002 18:52:55




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 Re: Cast aluminum grills in reply to 68 Mag, 02-02-2002 18:06:02  
68Mag-

Sure fire way to find aluminum and bondo under paint - use a magnet (but don't scratch the paint).

bjt



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68 Mag

02-02-2002 18:56:41




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 Re: Re: Cast aluminum grills in reply to bjt, 02-02-2002 18:52:55  
I would, but I've only seen it. The tractor is sitting under a roof near the road. The tractor is painted 9N grey, with 8N lug patterns. The hood is grey, with no radiator cap, and it sits slightly cock-eyed to the left, along with the grill, which has horizontal bars. If it turns out to be cast aluminum, I've been considering stopping and making the guy an offer, but if it isnt, then I'll leave him and his improperly painted N alone.

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watch out . . . Dell (WA)

02-02-2002 19:10:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Cast aluminum grills in reply to 68 Mag, 02-02-2002 18:56:41  
68 Mag..... ..Ferguson TO-20's have horizontal grill bars and 8N style small center rear wheel bolt pattern. Fergies' have OHV 4-cyl engine, Fords have 4-cyl flathead engines. They both have 4-speed trannys. 9N's have 3-speed trannys. Magnets are eazy test for aluminum. But you knew that didn't you? ..... ...Dell



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68 Mag

02-02-2002 19:14:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Cast aluminum grills in reply to watch out . . . Dell (WA), 02-02-2002 19:10:52  
Well, I didnt know about the Ferguson thing, thanks for the warning. I still dont believe all the help I can glean from this site...:)



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Dennis 9N/2N

02-02-2002 21:16:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cast aluminum grills in reply to 68 Mag, 02-02-2002 19:14:23  
Hi, 68 Mag:
If the radiator neck does not come through the hood, it is almost certainly a Ferguson, not a Ford. By the way, the hood tips forward on the Ferguson to get at everything. What a great feature. Too bad old Henry didn't do it that way. I am sure he had too much pride to copy it later!



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