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Ray Md.-- Don

02-12-2002 13:45:59




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Put the ring by itself back in cyl. and the end gap is 070 , I take it from what you said this
is not good. Could this be my whole problem for the smoking ? Thanks to all for your help.




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Mich Bingo

08-09-2005 09:26:01




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 Re: .030 4 ring in reply to Ray Md.-- Done what you said Zane, 02-12-2002 13:45:59  
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Claus

02-13-2002 11:30:17




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 Re: .030 4 ring in reply to Ray Md.-- Done what you said Zane, 02-12-2002 13:45:59  
When you measure the ring gap, ensure that the ring sits in the cylinder properly. Do this by dropping a piston upside down in the cylinder and then move the ring down to touch the piston. This will ensure that the ring is sitting properly in the bore.
Happy Motoring
Claus



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ZANE

02-12-2002 17:57:19




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 Re: .030 4 ring in reply to Ray Md.-- Done what you said Zane, 02-12-2002 13:45:59  
Yes the .070 is more than enough to make it smoke and use oil, foul spark plugs etc.

Take a new ring and put it in the cylinder and see what you get. If it is .030 or less you could make it a lot better with just a set of pistion rings. That is if the pistons are OK and the ring lands are not wallowed out much. Especiall the top ring land. (groove).

I just today got my 8N back together and started after replacing the pistons rings and sleeves. I have an old Chilton's manual and it recommends at least a gap of about .014 minimum end gap. I had exactly that much when I tried new rings in the new sleeves after they were installed.

Their is a lot of misinformation about what will work as far as engine ring clearances etc. You can get away with a lot more end clearance than you might think when doing a re-ring and still get good results. I have used a ridge reamer to cut out at least .010 ridge and re-ring and never use any oil to amount to much. I did always make sure that the crank and bearing were in good condition when it went back up. The rings will take care of themselves but the crank needs to be coddled.

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Danny in CO

02-12-2002 14:10:36




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 Re: .030 4 ring in reply to Ray Md.-- Done what you said Zane, 02-12-2002 13:45:59  
If I remember correctly, the end gap should be around .005"-.007". Have you measured at several place up and down inside the cylinder? Did you get consistent readings? If not, you have taper in your cylinders. I would recommend micing the cylinders to see if the cylinders are worn or just the rings. Did you have much ridge at the top of the cylinders? If not, you may can get by with just replacing the rings (about $20-$25). I would also replace the rod bearings since you are that far into it. And main bearings. And rebuild the oil pump. You see where this is going don't you!

Danny

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