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Rick-N-Fla

02-25-2002 05:58:52




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Hi All,

I have a 1949 8N with suspect hydraulics. I have changed over to an naa piston and o-ring. I have replaced the relief valve, cam follower pin, adjusted the linkage with Zane's adjustment jig. I dropped the pump and cleaned about 1 1/2 inches of goop from the pump housing, and still have the problem. The hydraulics work fine when you first start working the tractor, but as it warms up they get weaker. The right side seems to start getting weaker, putting more pressure on the left, and after a couple of hours it will hardly lift anything at all, bush-hog, disc, blade or any implement. I have checked for leaks, but found none. I think that the tolerances in the pump are such that it just can't pump the fluid when it gets hot. Is it time to rebuild the pump?
Should the innards of the pump be rebuilt, or should the pump and chambers be reuilt? Thanks for you opinions and suggestions. Your help has been much appreciated.

Rick Sisk
8n 245054

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ZANE

02-25-2002 19:43:43




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 Re: hydraulics opinions in reply to Rick-N-Fla, 02-25-2002 05:58:52  
If the pump is in need of rebuilding why don't you consider adding the live hydraulics that I have developed. You can then just leave the PTO out of gear and the live will still operate and if the PTO is in gear the lift will work faster even with a weak pump.

This is true if the N pump is not cracked. If it is cracked then nothing but another pump housing will help

I came up with a new idea the other day to check a pump for cracked housing. Remove the pump from the tractor and tap the pressure outlet hole in the pump to recieve a 1/4 inch pipe thread. Then install a grease fitting in the pressure hole and start pumping on the grease gun that is connected to the fitting. You can increase the pressure until the safety relief valve starts to exude grease. If you do not see any grease comeing out from a crack somewhere then the pump housing is OK.

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Bob /Ont.

02-25-2002 17:32:42




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 Re: hydraulics opinions in reply to Rick-N-Fla, 02-25-2002 05:58:52  
Hi Rick. Hyd that slowdown as the oil warms up indicate a leak somewhere, I know hyd fairly well but not much about 3pt hitch hyd. Was that goop very abrasive? Did you take the pump apart when you had it out?
Let me know and I'll ry to help you.Bob



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bg

02-25-2002 06:47:44




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 Re: hydraulics opinions in reply to Rick-N-Fla, 02-25-2002 05:58:52  
The right side and left side share a common shaft, pushed by one piston, so both sides will operate the same. The rockshaft bushings may be shot, giving the illusion that the right side sags more. What fluid are you using? If you're using 134D, a switch to 80/90 HP mineral oil(if you can find it)might help temporarily. Sounds to me like it's time to pull the pump and check tolerances. You won't know until you get into it.

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