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Sub-Soiler or Middle Buster??

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Alex Dula

03-19-2002 05:58:21




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After reading a post about boom poles in the KingKutter Ad I was wondering if one of these could be used to dig a trench to lay cable or PVC pipe. I have a lot of trenching to do over the next few years. The ground is rocky so I do not know if one of these implements would work. Anybody got one and used it in rocky ground with good results?
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Dave in Mo

03-19-2002 07:32:11




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 Re: Sub-Soiler or Middle Buster?? in reply to Alex Dula, 03-19-2002 05:58:21  
I've got the KingKutter subsoiler for my 8N. It has shear bolts on the main beam to protect the tool..... ....and we break them all the time. The 8N is awefully light to do serious trenching but we do well in rocky creekbottm type soil to about 12" deep.



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Phil Robertson (IL/MT)

03-19-2002 06:30:48




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 Re: Sub-Soiler or Middle Buster?? in reply to Alex Dula, 03-19-2002 05:58:21  
In Montana, where it is really, really rocky, my neighbor and I had a "tooth" made to fit the three point hitch. It was fabricated out of a tooth from a piece of machinery such as a road grader. The tooth was welded to a piece of steel with two arms on it to fit into the lift arms of the tractor. On top was welded a bracket to accomodate the top link. It works well to rip up the rocky soil and then the trench is cleaned out by hand to lay the pipe. I don't think it would work well in bedrock with the 8N; not enough power. Montana rocks where I live are rounded and are in material which has been deposited by glacial activity. Good luck... p

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llamas

03-19-2002 06:09:58




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 Re: Sub-Soiler or Middle Buster?? in reply to Alex Dula, 03-19-2002 05:58:21  
The "blade" arrangement on the back of a Ditch Witch cable puller (as used for telephone cables and similar) is very reminiscent of a subsoiler. It has a tube guide attached which takes the acble down and reels it out the rear of the blade as the machine moves forward.

It's important to differentiate between pulling something (flexible NG pipe is often pulled, using the pipe itself as the tensile member) and guiding something (phone line is guided down a tube attached to the blade and effectively "laid" in the trench.)

In rocky ground - I don't think you'd have too much success. A deeply-buried rock would stop something like that in its tracks. I'm afraid you'll be needing something that digs.

llater,

llamas

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Ed Gooding (VA)

03-19-2002 06:18:42




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 Re: Re: Sub-Soiler or Middle Buster?? in reply to llamas, 03-19-2002 06:09:58  
Hey Llamas, a couple of years ago (if memory serves.....highly suspect these days), you wrote a forum note about a home-made "ditch witch", that I thought was a hybrid of a back blade, sub-soiler and a spool. Do I remember correctly, and do you still have that info?

Regards..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798



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llamas

03-19-2002 08:07:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Sub-Soiler or Middle Buster?? in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 03-19-2002 06:18:42  
That's a good memory you got there, Ed.


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