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9N'er

04-12-2002 18:11:22




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I lifted the side mount distributor out, and a hex or octagonal shaft lifted out with it that slides into the gear shaft of the distributor.

Is that shaft supposed to stay inside the tractor/block housing that holds the distributor assembly?

I'm afraid that when I set it back in, it may drop in and be hard to find.

thoughts? One end of that hex or octagonal shaft is wearing down...shiny metal and beginning to round over. Insights are appreciated.

9N'er

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ZANE

04-13-2002 04:13:10




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 Re: Another distributor question in reply to 9N'er, 04-12-2002 18:11:22  
The distributor on the Hundred series is driven by a gear. The distributor shaft is machined internally on the end to receive a hex shaft about the size and shape of a pencil. This is the shaft that drives the oil pump. This shaft is supposed to be held down on top of the oil pump by a clip that will not allow it to be pulled out when the distributor is removed for some reason. If the shaft came out with the distributor it clip is missing or it was loose and fell off. It will not harm the engine to let it lay in the oil pan.

It coming out with the distributor is really a blessing. This shaft becoming rounded is what usually is the death of the Hundred series engine. When it wears enough to allow it to turn in the oil pump it is curtains for the engine. I have never seen anyone catch the oil pressure drop in time to save the engine.

Replace the shaft now.

Do not replace it in the oil pump until you have a new one.

You can install the new shaft by pushing a length of rubber hose over the end of it and carefully push it home into the female of the oil pump shaft inside the crankcase.

When it is installed then use a length of wire from a coat hanger to push the rubber hose off the end of the shaft by inserting it into the center of the hose and while holding the hose push with the wire until the hose is loose them pull them both out.

Install the distributor and turn it unti the shaft aligns so the distributor will go down to the block then time it.

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9N'er

04-13-2002 04:32:10




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 Re: Re: Another distributor question in reply to ZANE, 04-13-2002 04:13:10  
Zane,

that's good idea. Replacing it now is a smart move. thanks. I went through my parts book, can't seem to find the part number. From what I can tell "it looks like" part number EAF 6646 B (shaft oil pump intermediate 134), or EAF 6646D (Shaft oil pump intermediate).

Am I looking at the right part? and if I am, which one for the 172 RED TIGER. Can you provide this knowledge too Zane? THANKS. tom

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ZANE

04-13-2002 06:01:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Another distributor question in reply to 9N'er, 04-13-2002 04:32:10  
If it is an NAA, 600, 601 or a 2000 it will carry the shaft for the 134 CI engine. The 172 CI will be different I think.

I don't really know the part number.???

Zane



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9N'er

04-12-2002 23:39:32




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 Re: Re: Another distributor question in reply to bg, 04-12-2002 19:07:29  
Dell and bg:

Yep, have all those pieces in the attached photo.

At the bottom of the shaft, it has been hollowed out with a hex shaped bore. On my tractor (850...sorry here guys, but the response on this board for the occasional 100 series question I have is rapid and I appreciate that) another spline or hex shaped shaft then slides into the bottom of the above pictured shaft.

This is what came out this time with the distributor and I suspect it mates with another hex shaped bore inside the tractor and this is what powers the distributor shaft and rotor to spin.

Just wondering why it came out, and how do I ensure it seats inside the tractor if it falls out of the above shaft and into the tractor.

ideas?

9N'er

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Dell (WA)

04-12-2002 23:57:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Another distributor question in reply to 9N'er, 04-12-2002 23:39:32  
9N'er..... .....you know the ol' story about me flunking mindreading? (grin) 850...huh?

BUT....seems to me that there are some distributors driven off the engine oilpump with some sort of hex drive. but this is beyound my experience. I know my VW Diesel has a vacuum pump for the power brakes driven by the oilpump just like the gas VW engine distributor is driven by the oil pump..... ..... Dell

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9N'er

04-13-2002 03:56:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Another distributor question in reply to Dell (WA), 04-12-2002 23:57:44  
Hi Dell.

You are correct. I posted the same question on the Ford board, and a fella there said it drives the oil pump. You can see his message there. THANK YOU. As always, I appreciate the help. And, you know, Kerchoff was ahead of his time after-all wasn't he? I mean, I'm living in 2002 and still don't 'quite understand his theory! tom



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Dell (WA)

04-12-2002 19:02:37




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 Re: Another distributor question in reply to 9N'er, 04-12-2002 18:11:22  
9N'er..... ....should be a small gear heald on by rivet/rollpin at the bottom of your distributor drive shaft. Sounds like you're missing something..... .....Dell



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