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mudsticking mishap!

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Andy - Hammond,

04-15-2002 07:58:27




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Once again I get to play the fool.

Speaking of getting stuck in the mud. I got my 8N stuck this weekend and I was flaming! I had just cut about 3 acres and was going to clear out around the perimeter and crossed a small natural creek/culvert for drainage. I had crossed it before bearly a foot wide and 6" deep - no problem. Got across no problem - THEN BLAM - hit a hidden stump with the front of my hog. BLAM GOING NOWHERE. Backed up and got the stump lodged under my clutch and something caused the right brake to come SLAMMING down on my #13s! Darn that hurt.

As luck would have it I was jammed between the hog and the stump and finally mashed the stump down enough to move - the new ag tires laid right back into the weak bottom "culvert" - Don't know what happened but the right tire got stuck and wouldn't move. (by the time it was done - I had carved bout a 2' hole in the ground) Plus the tank wasn't completed full so the bulb wouldn't fill completely and the tractor wouldn't start anymore. (grin) Had to get my Chevy Ext V8/350 and it wouldn't budge anything. Got my 4WD 4Runner and it got stuck too - (tried pulling it from the front) --- 1st time I ever got that truck stuck anywhere. :-D

As you could imagine, by this point I was beyond belief. No one was home nearby with their tractors etc. so I had to call a Big Wheel wrecker to come play Mr Recovery. At the tone of $125 to recover my hog, tractor & 4runner I guess I learned my lesson in stupidity. I don't know what else I could have done. Thought the ole' Ns would get stuck so easily. Hmmmmm...

Any ideas, opinions, help, advice on getting stuck and getting out?

Hope this was good for some laughs. Andy

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Ultradog MN

04-15-2002 18:04:05




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 Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to Andy - Hammond, LA, 04-15-2002 07:58:27  
Hey Andy
When I was a kid I got our Allis 'C' buried in a back hoed trench that had been filled and was still soft. I was horrified because I knew the old man would whoop me for it.
But there was an old farmer from ILL who used to spend the summers near us at the lake and he taught me to do this:
Take a small log or fence post and chain it CROSSWISE on the back side of the wheel. Then put the tractor in reverse and apply the OTHER brake hard so that the chained tire drags the log up under the itself. Stop and throw enough dirt, rocks, boards etc to fill up the hole you dug.
Then do the same thing to the other side.
I was too stupid to pay attention to such an old fool and left to find my cousin.
When I got back about 45 minutes later the old guy had it out and was calmly putting the chain away.
I learned 2 things that day.
If you ever do this make sure you put the logs on the BACK side of the tire. You'll flip the tractor over if you do it in the front of the tire.
HTH Jerry

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duey in MN

04-15-2002 20:06:18




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 Re: Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to Ultradog MN, 04-15-2002 18:04:05  
Wasn't gonna comment but after reading yours, that's what I recall doing to get my 2N out when I was a kid....an old fence post on each side a loop of log chain...keep it a bit loose and & she crawled out over. Due to youthful exuberance, it was stuck to where the tires were free.....how did we live this long???



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Barnstormer

04-15-2002 08:44:58




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 Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to Andy - Hammond, LA, 04-15-2002 07:58:27  
My rules for getting un-stuck after 49 years:
1. STOP! spinning only makes for more digging;
2. Get help. If none available either leave it there until there is help OR start digging;
3. Probably have to dig anyway so do that until help arrives (allows choice words while heels hit butt);
4. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER try to "dead pull", that is, no one on the stuck vehicle.
5. Put pull vehicle on high firm ground.
6. Driver of stuck vehicle should NOT spine wheels
7. May have to put planks or old tires in front of drive wheels (front is direction to pull it out) NEVER, NEVER, NEVER CHAIN OR ROPE PLANKS OR LOGS TO WHEELS. LAZY MAN'S WAY TO DIE YOUNG.
8. Once moving, don't stop until both vehicles are on solid ground. Then, towed vehicle should clutch and coast until tow vehicle stops.
9. Have a beer while washing mud off of tractor
10. Don't go back to that area until it is dry.
11. Remember that spot next year.
12. Don't take 49 years to learn steps 1 thru 11! ;>)

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jim

04-15-2002 09:34:16




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 Re: Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to Barnstormer, 04-15-2002 08:44:58  
I agree with most of Barnstormer's advice except I always try to pull out backwards first. By going backwards , you're following the tracks that you've already made and don't have to climb out of the hole your in. Overall , much safer and with a tractor in particular, you're pulling from the heaviest part of the tractor,avoiding possible damage to the lighter front axles.



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Barnstormer

04-15-2002 10:48:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to jim, 04-15-2002 09:34:16  
Hi Jim,
I see where you're at. I think conditions will help identify best direction. With an implement on the rear, pulling backwards may the weak link. Another consideration for me is that farm lugs are designed for self cleaning going forward and will pack dirt going backward (unless you have a turbine engine ;>)) I guess with turf tires it doesn't matter, they are usless in mud anyway.
With my FEL I can often push myself out backwards by combining hydraulic bucket power and reverse. Often I got stuck because of the added weight of the loader that made the front wheels sink. (It was never my fault)
When we farmed, there were times I could plow through 8" of water because the ground below was still solid. Other times, in softer ground, I had to unhook the plow, drive out forward, chain the plow out backward to dry ground and re-hook. Then I would drive past the wet spot, drop the furrow wheel in and back up to just before getting stuck and finish the furrow across the field. Ahhhhh h, what memories!
The depth of your mud hole may vary.

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jim

04-15-2002 14:22:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to Barnstormer, 04-15-2002 10:48:18  
Ahh Barnstormer , I can see that you've been there - done that. Nothing teaches like experience! Next county west of us is all sand so they miss out on all that fun. However , after a long dry spell , followed by high winds ,a lot of their county blows over to our county. Nothing like Norfolk sand to lighten our Haldimand clay !



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Never too old to learn...Barnstormer

04-15-2002 14:54:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to jim, 04-15-2002 14:22:14  
, just slower, sometimes.
Even got stuck in dry sand, once. A dry year brought out the cultipacker to try to hold moisture. It was so dusty...how dusty was it, John?...it was so dusty, I could not see the 8N radiator cap from the seat. The tractor started bouncing, and when I stopped, I had buried the rear tires and could not pull the pin to release the cultipacker. Dig, dig, dig. Two shovels full out, one shovel full slides in. :>(

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jim

04-15-2002 17:08:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to Never too old to learn...Barnstormer, 04-15-2002 14:54:39  
Like I tell all my neighbours who have just buried their giant front-wheel assist tractors as I hook on with my old 5000 - planting a tractor like that just won't grow a bigger one !
Touch wood , they haven't had to pull me out yet.



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Mark Hendershot

04-15-2002 08:13:14




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 Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to Andy - Hammond, LA, 04-15-2002 07:58:27  
After digging a 4 X 4 out by hand in the middle of no where for 8-hours I came to the conclusion when in the slitist dought walk it first or don't try to go thru it. So far I haven't been stuck again with my trucks for 25 years. Have got the tractor stuck befor but I stop, get off look it over and dig it out befor it gets to deep. Some times the tow trucks are needed that's why they made them. Mark H.

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Salmoneye

04-15-2002 08:37:07




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 Re: Re: Like a pig to mud - mudsticking mishap! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 04-15-2002 08:13:14  
Not only do I walk it first but I carry an old hollow aluminum ski pole shaft in my 4x4's.
Stick it in and you can hear and feel when you find the bottom and what it consists of.
Then drive it...



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