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rich in n minn

11-13-2000 06:07:13




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Hello Again guys. I was the one who installed the 8v in beautiful 2n and have had nothing but troubles. New points, condensor, timing and 2 coils from Taiwan. We thought we had faulty coils so I bought ford coil and installed it last night. The tractor would not start at all. That is a first because it used to start and quit after an hour. I measured the voltage from battery, it was 6.2 volts but the voltage in the line going to the coil was 4.3 volts. The voltage at the coil was 4.1 volts and when the tractor was turned over the voltmeter bounced a bit from 4 to 4.3 like the points were opening and closing. The voltage at the starter when the ignition was on and tractor was turning over was also 4 volts. Any suggestions? Does this sound like the ballast resistor? When the tractor used to shut down, I was getting the proper readings at the coil but the spark was weak leading all of us to believe it was a bad coil

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tim OH

11-13-2000 18:41:08




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 Re: 2n ignition problem in reply to rich in n minn, 11-13-2000 06:07:13  
If you think the points are shorting out go to www.nseries.com. In their list of pages you will find one called front mounted distributor. It will tell you how to trouble shoot the points if they are shorting out. That info just saved me a lot of effort.



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Dell (WA)

11-13-2000 06:45:58




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 Re: 2n ignition problem in reply to rich in n minn, 11-13-2000 06:07:13  
Rich..... ..your ballast resistor is working just fine.

I've lost count of how many times you've posted with your 2N ignition problem and each time you seem to want to blame your ballast resistor for your problem.

Repeat after me....for a frontmount OEM 6 volt ignition coil the desired voltage at the coil terminal is about 3.5 volts (3 min, 4.5 max).

As for your battery dragging down to 4 volts when your starter is cranking, thats kinda normal. All batterys get sucked down when they are trying to turn over the starter. Yours battery howsomever, may be a little weak in that area. This could be just lack of a good charge or it could really be a bad battery with the plates sulphateing up. Recharge your battery. And yes, even a bad battery will still read 6 volts EXCEPT when under load. Its called ampacity. (I think)

Since you have reported that the engine has started in the past, I would tend to discount "poor engine performance" such as low compression as a cause for nonstarting.

This time, given your general description, I would tend to suspect a bad battery, they don't live forever..... ...Dell

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rich

11-13-2000 07:10:25




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 Re: Re: 2n ignition problem in reply to Dell (WA), 11-13-2000 06:45:58  
Dell:

I really respect your opinion. I guess this is the first time I suspected a ballast resistor. the battery is new by the way. I have never had the voltage reading stay at 4 volts at the coil. I know the 4 is the desired reading but the voltage does not get up to 6 volts at the coil which it should be when the points are open. If the voltmeter fluctuates when the tractor is turning over from 4 to 4.3 or something like that does that mean the points are opening and closing. It seems like there should b e 6 volgts at the coil when the points are open and there is no 6 volts .

Thanks for your

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Dell (WA)

11-13-2000 13:51:29




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 Re: Re: Re: 2n ignition problem in reply to rich, 11-13-2000 07:10:25  
Rich..... ..Sorry if I was a bit too aggressive in my answer this morning, there's been a bunch of posts concerning ballast resistors these last couple of days, I might have gotten you confused with them.

Meanwhile, this is still not getting your tractor started. You said something, always reading about 4 volts at the coil. If you never read 6 volts, (which means points open), I would suspect that eather your points have slipped closed or your points attaching screw has lost its insulation and you are "shorting out" your ignition points. Same effect, no sparkies.

The fluctuation that you observe when cranking is probably your starter being loaded down, most likely by pushing up against the compression.

I sure want to read a "success" message..... Dell

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