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8n in mn

06-09-2002 17:29:09




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Looking for some help and thoughts on another Ford product problem. We recently purchased a motorhome built on the 1993 Ford e-350 van chasis.

Here's what happened. Fuel tank guage said 1/4 tank left and experienced decreasing power for about 15 miles. Luckily, we were close to home and exited the freeway and were able to limp along and coast to my local repair shop. Vehicle would not keep running. The oil pressure, temp, volt guages or idiot lights did not indicate any problems.

Called the neighbor and got a ride home. Went back to unload motorhome and leave for mechanic to fix. Wife suggested no fuel. Worth a try, so on the way, I picked up 5 gallons and dumped into motorhome. Now, everything seems to be fine again.

I know this vehicle has the electric fuel pump in the tank. When we conked out, I could not hear the normal fuel pump hum. After adding the can of gas and restarting, I could again hear the fuel pump. I suspect there may be a fuel pump cut-out inside the tank. I don't suspect the fuel guage because vehicle has 30 gallon tank and gets around 9 mpg for a cruise range of around 270 miles. I only had 180 miles on this tank when this occured. Also, when the vehicle was purchased, there was only about a 1/4 tank of gas. Did try previous owner, but they never had a problem.

Has anyone else ever had a similar problem with a ford vehicle and the in tank fuel pump. Any thoughts/ideas would be appreciated. When I talk to the mechanic, I don't want to be taking an unnecessary ride.

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kjm

06-12-2002 13:52:14




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 Re: Little Help on other Ford question in reply to 8n in mn, 06-09-2002 17:29:09  
Be sure to replace the fuel pump relay when you change the pump.



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update from 8n in mn

06-10-2002 14:03:59




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 Re: Little Help on other Ford question in reply to 8n in mn, 06-09-2002 17:29:09  
Mechanic says to replace fuel pump and in-line fuel filter. He believes the pump is showing signs of wear and the heat caused the fuel pump to quit working. Once the unit sat for 25-30 minutes and added cool gas to the tank, the cooler temperature allowed pump to start working again. Hard to take a chance on this one because who wants to be broke down road side 200+ miles from home? I guess I'll just follow his advice and shell out the $425 for a new pump and filter.

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Richie MaGoo

06-10-2002 19:54:19




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 Re: Re: Little Help on other Ford question in reply to update from 8n in mn, 06-10-2002 14:03:59  
8N In MN: Since the mechanics' gonna have the tank down and open anyway, ASK him to take a look at the partition/baffle (whatever you wanna call it). You'd be surprised how many mechanics wouldn't notice- or are ignorant of the problem.

Good luck!



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8n in mn

06-11-2002 14:31:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Little Help on other Ford question in reply to Richie MaGoo, 06-10-2002 19:54:19  
Good idea - thanks for the tip.



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Thanks Richie John

06-10-2002 05:44:39




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 Re: Little Help on other Ford question in reply to 8n in mn, 06-09-2002 17:29:09  
Thanks for the insight. There does not appear to be any physical damage to the tank. We'll see what the mechanic has to say. 8n in mn.



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Richie MaGoo

06-09-2002 21:18:30




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 Re: Little Help on other Ford question in reply to 8n in mn, 06-09-2002 17:29:09  
This could be causing the problem: There is a plastic partition in the gas tank, that, keeps the gas from sloshing around when the tank is not full- this plastic also helps corral the gas into a puddle deep enough for the fuel pump to be able to pick it up when the gas starts getting low. There are a couple of ways these partitions can get damaged: If the vehicle has ever been picked up with a forklift(like at a salvage auction), or, if it ever had any damage to it from being struck with road debris/bottoming out etc. Look at your gas tank- if there is any visible sign of damage- such as desnts in it, I would strongly suspect you have a cracked partition. I put a used gas tank in my van, (old one leaked) and noticed that the partition was busted in the "new" one- so I never let my van get lower than a quarter of a tank- and usually fill up when it gets to half.

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John

06-09-2002 17:53:39




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 Re: Little Help on other Ford question in reply to 8n in mn, 06-09-2002 17:29:09  
8n, I would first change the fuel pump,just for safety. Those pumps never seem to go out when the tanks empty. Then I would check the wireing to the fuel pump. This problem could occur for a couple of reasons that I can think of.{1} Most electric fuel pumps are self grounding. Therefore if you have a bad ground it may not supply enough fuel. {2} If the fuel pump has a cracked diapham it won't supply enough fuel. {3} If this RV is fuel injected check the inline fuel filter and fuel pressure regulator. Goodluck John

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