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alan45/Noway Il

06-11-2002 21:04:29




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Hey I have a problem with the other type of hay.
can anyone tell me what type of equip. I could use to cut,rake, and sq.bale my hay with my 8N. I have a really problem getting anyone to cut my six acres of hay, so I figure I'll buy my own equip. and learn to cut it myself.

Thanks alan
Got any ideas Dell




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John

06-12-2002 05:14:05




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 Re: Haying in reply to alan45/Noway Illinois, 06-11-2002 21:04:29  
Alan, You need 4 things to bale; a hay rake $25-$50 a mower$175-$200 and a good baler$800 and up plus a rack or something to pick them up on. I have an old $25 massey side delivery that I use. I sold my 3pt. ford sickle mower when the neighbor started letting me use his rotary schye.When I bale small bales I got 2 racks and 2 car trailors I pick-up on. When the massey #10 baler broke a needle and the dealer said $119 each, I junked the $100 baler and opted to pay 35 cents a small bale and $10 a big bale. I don't know where your from, but I know where you can get a ford sickle mower for $200 and it's hard to beat a john deere baler. And just about any old rake will work. Goodluck John

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Arne - Idaho

06-12-2002 03:15:01




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 Re: Haying in reply to alan45/Noway Illinois, 06-11-2002 21:04:29  
Hi Alan,

I hay small acerage(s) with my 8N. I have a JD no.5 mower, a ferguson model 20 rake and a JD 14T baler. All real old stuff, but it works fine. I would recommend a 3PT sickle. The no.5 is a good mower, but it takes some creativity to get it attached to the N. I ended up making a fixed drawbar to use with it and the baler. The real trick with using a non live PTO tractor to bale with is to rake small rows.

Dell is right about learning about balers. First couple years we were out in the field after dark scrathing our heads. Luckily manuals still exist for much of this equipment.

Good luck,

Arne

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Dell (WA)

06-12-2002 00:23:24




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 Re: Haying in reply to alan45/Noway Illinois, 06-11-2002 21:04:29  
Alan..... ....like you, I have a small acreage, and the best feed value in pasture grass is in MAY in the Puget Sound Area..... ..problem is you can't dry the stuff untill after 4th July as it rains too much and by then there is NO FEED value left. It even makes lousy bedding.

I bite the bullet and buy alfalfa from Columbia Basin for winter feed. According to the books, Sheep don't need feed value of alfalfa but they won't eat local grass hay. I don't blaime 'em, would be just like eating newspaper for food value.

What you never ate paper? I always ended up swallerin' that spitwadd 'cuz the teach always seemed to sense that ol'Dell wass gonna do sumptin foolish and shee needed the blackboards cleaned or sumppthen. gulp!!! (grin) ..... but I digress.....

Just guessin' enough new/modern small haybale equipment probably gonna run over $10K. Enough 50 yo hayin' quipment (and subsequent reliability issues) probably $3000+ investment.

And then theres learning how to keep the bailer adjusted. (its a black art). It'll probably take you 2 yrs to get enough of the right kind of used N-tractor compatable hay machinery unless you luck out and find an estate sale with all the right stuff and go in with a big checkbook.

I know it is irritating to have 6 acres of pasture hay and not being able to get it bailed is really the pits. My advice, is to keep the grass growing by mowing/brushoggin and let the chopped grass compost back into the ground.

Remember, the reason grass grows is for S3X. If you keep cutting its s3x off before it fertilizes itself, it'll keep growing. Once grass has s3x, it quits growing, smokes a ciggerette, and says was that good for you? (grin)..... ...Dell

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NEVER THOUGHT---DON TX

06-12-2002 17:16:56




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 Re: Re: Haying in reply to Dell (WA), 06-12-2002 00:23:24  
about it that way, but makes sense. When I quit having s3x I stopped growing, too. (%^)
DON TX



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Dan in Alabama

06-12-2002 13:43:46




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 Re: Re: Haying in reply to Dell (WA), 06-12-2002 00:23:24  
Dell. What the heck is s3x?



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Dell (WA)

06-12-2002 19:55:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Haying in reply to Dan in Alabama, 06-12-2002 13:43:46  
Dan..... ...S3X is kinky way to get E past Kim's censor software..... ...Dell



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Dell, your buying columbian grass??? (grin) Ron/PA

06-12-2002 11:11:58




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 Re: Re: Haying in reply to Dell (WA), 06-12-2002 00:23:24  
I know exactly what you mean, we end up bedding our steers and hogs in alot of our homegrown hay.



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alan to dell

06-12-2002 06:00:33




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 Re: Re: Haying in reply to Dell (WA), 06-12-2002 00:23:24  
Mean ya'll never added a little paste to your paper give it great flavor.



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