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Rusty (MS)

06-14-2002 08:04:28

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I saw a junked out 8n Ford on a flatbed today. I was behind it in traffic and right off I noticed something about this tractor was not the norm. Something had been added to the rear wheel hubs it seemed and gave the tractor at least a foot more distance between the rear wheels to give the tractor a better center of gravity on a slope I assume. I'm sure it was a set of adapters on each hub that accounted for the added width between the rear wheels. Anyone know if these "adapters" are easy to find today. I've got a lot of hills at my place and I would snap up a device that would give me a wider rear wheel base.

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Ed Gooding (VA)

06-15-2002 05:38:50

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Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Rusty (MS), 06-14-2002 08:04:28

Hey Rusty. There's three pages in the 8N owner's manual devoted to wheel spacing. Here's a scan of the pertinent info for you:

Hope this helps..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798

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Bob (KY)

06-14-2002 20:40:59

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Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Rusty (MS), 06-14-2002 08:04:28

There's a set of adapters on ebay right now.

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Bill W.

06-14-2002 17:38:19

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Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Rusty (MS), 06-14-2002 08:04:28

You'll find that in your mixing a mingling with the wheels and discs that you'll actually swap discs from one side to the other and going with opposite wheels. You can, with directions in the manual, make that sucker WIDE.. Good N-ing.

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Terry-N-Mo.........While we are on this subject...........

06-14-2002 15:03:41

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Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Rusty (MS), 06-14-2002 08:04:28

Does anyone know if widening the front wheels out will effect the turning radius? I adjusted mine out just one hole to 56" but now it seems like it doesn`t turn near as sharp as it did before.

Thanks,Terry

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Tyler (MD)

06-14-2002 18:31:22

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Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Terry-N-Mo.........While we are on this subject..........., 06-14-2002 15:03:41

The larger the width, the larger the turning radius and the longer it takes to turn the tractor.

Tyman

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Dell (WA)

06-14-2002 08:32:55

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Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Rusty (MS), 06-14-2002 08:04:28

Rusty..... ...you do know that your N's rear axle width is adjustable in 4" increments by changing the way the rims bolt on the brake drums, don't you? Max axle width is 76", normal is 52, min is 48. Thats almost 1' wider on each side.

Usually done for rowcrop tillage by straddeling the rows as you pulled weeding shovels down between the rows.

Ford Owners Manual or I&T FO-4 manual show how to combine the various rearwheel parts to get the various axle widths.

Of course, there was a rare dual rear wheel option adaptor for 8N's..... ..... Dell

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2fordsmike...Might be cornpicker extensions

06-14-2002 20:01:34

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Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Dell (WA), 06-14-2002 08:32:55

When they mounted the excellent Ford 2-row cornpicker on the 900 and 901's they used an extension to give the wheels extra clearance. You didn't show a picture but I'm guessing that's what you saw if it was mounted on the hubs and extended the wheel from the hubs. I've got two of those extensionsw in the shed. Mike-Iowa

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Thompson8N167346

06-14-2002 09:18:07

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Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Dell (WA), 06-14-2002 08:32:55

Dell, I've read that page in the FO-4 a hundred times and still doesn't come clear to me. My rear tires are currently 5' (out to out) and I'd love to get them into 4'. Many evenings I've sat on a 5 gallon pail with FO-4 in hand and stared at those rims trying to figure it out.

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Dell (WA)

06-14-2002 09:34:45

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Re: Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Thompson8N167346, 06-14-2002 09:18:07

Tommy..... ....take a real close look at the way the tire rim mounts to the wheel disc. You have to remove those 3" bolts (probably firewrench) and change which side of the rim hatsection the wheel disc mounts to (outside hat section). For narrowest (48" centerline) rearaxle width, I think you may have to remove your clamshell fenders..... .....Dell

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Rusty (MS)

06-14-2002 08:39:49

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Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Dell (WA), 06-14-2002 08:32:55

I didn't know my tractors rear wheels were adjustable. I've got a I&T FO-4 but I have never come across this topic. Thanks for the tip Dell. I'll get in my manual tonight, and I may get up in the morning, hit the barn, and give myself that extra width. That would be great.

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caution . . . Dell (WA)

06-14-2002 09:21:41

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Re: Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Rusty (MS), 06-14-2002 08:39:49

Rusty..... ...p/n 350719-S8, bolt, 5/8-18 x 2.82 roundhead. Is usually rusted on tight on these old machines. Most use a 3" 5/8 carrage bolt for replacement after using firewrench for removal.

Try just turning the rear wheel around and mounting backside out on the opposite brakedrum. Thats good for 72" and gets the tirebars pointed right for selfcleaning..... .....Dell

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Arne

06-14-2002 11:57:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to caution . . . Dell (WA), 06-14-2002 09:21:41

Don't use a butter bolt (grade 2) when you replace it. Maybe it doesn't matter, but I wouldn't chance it. A lot of carriage bolts are real soft.

Mine was set up widest when I got it with tires backwards. LOL I just flipped the hats and switched sides. Another caution: Don't assume that because the first tire isn't liquid filled that the second one won't be. As Dell says, don't ask. ;-)

Arne

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Barnstormer

06-14-2002 18:45:45

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Danny in CO, 06-14-2002 09:13:53

Those sure look like the pair that I bought on September 26, 2001. They came bolted together and wrapped in cardboard. My check was $90.

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Rusty (MS)

06-14-2002 11:10:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Danny in CO, 06-14-2002 09:13:53

I wished I had a shot at those Danny. If its not to much to ask, what would I expect to pay for a set like that if I run across another set in the future?

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Danny in CO

06-14-2002 11:54:15

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Rusty (MS), 06-14-2002 11:10:20

I sold them for $65. I think they would have sold for a lot more on Ebay.

Danny

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jimpCo

06-14-2002 13:08:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Danny in CO, 06-14-2002 11:54:15

If I remember right, you took quite a loss on those. They didn't pay for everything.

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Danny in CO

06-14-2002 13:17:09

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to jimpCo, 06-14-2002 13:08:37

Hi Jim,

Just those didn't pay for what I spent, but that with the hood and air cleaner did! I still have a 9n hood from the auction that I need to clean up and prime. I'll then put it on Ebay and be ahead!

Danny

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Jerry (AL)

06-14-2002 08:18:19

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Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Rusty (MS), 06-14-2002 08:04:28

You can adjust the rear wheel width a lot wider than a foot without anything required. You can actually reverse the rear wheels and switch sides with them and get them out to around 82-84 inches center to center. The ford manual you can buy explains all this in detail. It also explains the adjustments required dependent on width you require on the front axles.

I currently have mine out as wide as they go on the front and the rear to plant corn with a two row planter and cultivator for corn.

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Rusty (MS)

06-14-2002 08:32:14

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Re: Re: Anyone know what this is? in reply to Jerry (AL), 06-14-2002 08:18:19

Thanks a lot Jerry, I did not know that. I'm going to look into this. If thats all required to give me a wider wheel base I'll try it.

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