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PTO Shaft Saws-All

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Ray Austin

07-01-2002 04:33:46




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This may sound like a real elementary question but what is a saws-all? I have been looking in the Search This Site and read where a saws-all was used to cut the PTO shaft when it could not be removed by pulling it out the back. I am about to replace the PTO Shaft in my Ferguson Tractor due to seal leakage and shaft update. If it doesn't pull right out I want to know my options. Hence the question as to what a saws-all is. Thanks, Ray

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Ray Austin

07-01-2002 19:27:25




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 Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Ray Austin, 07-01-2002 04:33:46  
Thanks to all for your comments and help. I really appreciate it. I will be armed and ready when I attack the PTO shaft removal.



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Steve W...you wimps!

07-01-2002 10:46:24




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 Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Ray Austin, 07-01-2002 04:33:46  
I put a fine blade in my hacksaw, and cut through the shaft in a minute or so....what would a farmer in 1939 have done...you guys deserve a Kubota....lol.

Take Care
Steve



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Mark Hendershot

07-01-2002 15:50:55




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 Re: Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Steve W...you wimps!, 07-01-2002 10:46:24  
Just remember that a farmer in 1939 did not have a Saws All to use and did not know what one was and would not have known it is easer to do it that way. Just a point. Mark H.



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Steve W

07-02-2002 05:41:40




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 Re: Re: Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Mark Hendershot, 07-01-2002 15:50:55  
I guess what I am saying, is that a PTO shaft is not hard at all, or it would snap, it is actually quite soft, and a hacksaw with the right blade cuts it like butter....no one needs to go buy a sawsall. Of course if you have one, let it rip!

Take Care
Steve



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Jon in Mass

07-01-2002 08:06:27




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 Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Ray Austin, 07-01-2002 04:33:46  
I have a DeWalt which I got for less than $200 which I like. It has a quick change blade holder which makes it easy to change when you break the blade trying to cut through a 16d nail when you thought you were sawing wood :(

Jon



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Ed Gooding (VA)

07-01-2002 11:18:08




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 Re: Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Jon in Mass, 07-01-2002 08:06:27  
Hey Jon. They make blades that will cut through nails, right along with the wood. I use them all the time in my Makita recipro saw. I recently had to replace a drop-down attic stairway at my older son's house. I used the recipro saw to cut through the 16d nails holding the old stairway frame to the ceiling joists, and had it out of my way in less than 10 minutes. These rascals are great for demolition work because you can get blades for about anything. I even use my recipro saw to cut railroad ties. I found some pruning blades for them, that are about 14-16" long. Won't go through a RR tie as fast as a chainsaw, but it's a lot easier to get the creosote off the recipro saw blade than a saw chain, and it's a lot less expensive when you encounter a nail or piece of metal inside one of the ties while cutting through it.

fwiw..... ...Ed
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Don

07-01-2002 07:02:11




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 Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Ray Austin, 07-01-2002 04:33:46  
I have a saw like you are talking about. I haven't found a blade that will hold up in cutting steel. It works fine on wood, and would probably cut tin, but haven't found a good blade for even lighter steel.



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Mark Hendershot

07-01-2002 07:31:59




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 Re: Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Don, 07-01-2002 07:02:11  
You need to get a Bi-Metal Hi-Speed Saw Blade with about 24 teeth per inch. Lenox make a good blade for steel, wood and plastic. They cost more but allmost last for ever. Cutting harden steel is a chore and you might need a 32 tooth per inch to do it. These are good blades and will cut steel no problem. The cheaper blades do not hold up. Mark H.



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Chris9n in CT

07-01-2002 05:28:58




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 Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Ray Austin, 07-01-2002 04:33:46  
If you decide to get a sawzall (reciprocating saw), I recommend buying the 18 volt cordless Ryobi kit sold at home depot for around 200.00. It comes with a drill, flashlight, cicular saw, recip saw, two batteries and a 1 hr charger (and blades). I bought one 1.5 years ago and I use it all the time. I have a top of the line milwalkee sawzall, but I end up using the Ryobi more due to convenience. So, for about the same money you also get the other tools that are very handy.

JMHO, Chris

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MikeC

07-01-2002 06:17:59




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 Re: Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Chris9n in CT, 07-01-2002 05:28:58  
I agree! I purchased one a couple of weeks ago and had a chance to use it this weekend. I cut some treated 2X8's with no trouble at all. I was really pleased with it. I wonder if it would have enough power to chew through a PTO shaft though? Be an interesting experiment...



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Chris9n in CT

07-01-2002 08:39:43




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 Re: Re: Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to MikeC, 07-01-2002 06:17:59  
I used the ryobi to cut the length of the drive shaft for my new rotary mower since it was to long when I got it. I cut it several times to fine tune the length and had no problems.

Chris



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MikeC

07-01-2002 10:20:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Chris9n in CT, 07-01-2002 08:39:43  
I guess I'm surprised at the amount of power a "battery operated" saw has. I was really impressed with the sawzall abilities, and I can't wait to play with the circular saw. I could be dangerous....



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MikeC

07-01-2002 05:16:39




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 Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Ray Austin, 07-01-2002 04:33:46  
Take a look at the link below.



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Dave Smith

07-01-2002 04:58:43




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 Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Ray Austin, 07-01-2002 04:33:46  
Saws All is actually a brand name for Millwalkie tools recipricating saw. They are simular to jig saws only larger. They are a handy tool to have but good ones are not cheap. I have a Porter Cable I paid $200 for on sale . Sears also sells one with the Craftsmen name on it about $100. Various types of blades are available for cutting most anything from plastic to steel.
Dave <*)))><



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JJ

07-01-2002 04:52:19




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 Re: PTO Shaft Saws-All in reply to Ray Austin, 07-01-2002 04:33:46  
It's just an electric reciprocating saw; "Sawzall" is Milwaukee's trade name for its version.

One thought, though: That would have to be one bad a** blade to get through a hardened PTO shaft !!

Good luck,
JJ



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