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9Njoe

07-23-2002 17:31:51

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I have the opportunity to buy a Ferguson tractor and need some info. This thing looks like a cross between a 9N and an 8N. It has Harry Fergusson's signature on the engine. It has a 4 cyl engine but the plugs are on the left side at an angle and the distributor is also on the laft side of the engine and is slanted out.

Does anyone have an idea of what this thing is or what it is worth? It is pretty beat up, it runs OK and all the widgets seem to work. It has been converted to 12 volts and it seems like oil is seeping from every orifice, sheet metal is beat but repairable and the rubber
seems pretty decent. I have yet to do a comp check but oil pressure seems OK.

I have rebuilt a basket case 9N from the ground up so I know what I am in for as far as that goes but what I want to know is if this tractor is as good as a 9N, is it rare or did they build lots. Does it have any major functional differences from an N? Are they worth restoring? What is a ballpark price for one of these?

I have pictures of my last restore job at>Link

So if I do restore this one I will do as good a job on it as my 9N

Well that is the story, any info on it would be appreciated.

9Njoe

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ZANE

07-23-2002 19:16:09

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Re: What is it? Whats it worth? in reply to 9Njoe, 07-23-2002 17:31:51

I have a TO 20 (1950) and have has it since about 1963. I like it. I like it even better since I invented the ZANE THANG position contol device that gives it position control that it didn't have the first 30 years I owned it.
I like the Contenental engine with the overhead valves too. Don't like the oil filter in the bottom of the oil pan though. Always getting bent out of shape when it hits things. Mine has no filter since I welded up the whole shebang to stop it always leaking. That was about 25 years ago. Wonder how long it would have lasted with a filter?????

See the link below if you buy it you will need one of these.

ZANE THANG

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Ontario N'er

07-23-2002 18:47:15

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Re: What is it? Whats it worth? in reply to 9Njoe, 07-23-2002 17:31:51

If the plate above steering wheel says TEO , it's a Continental engine , if it says TEA , it's a British Standard(Triumph)engine , but some early TEA's had Continental as well . Now you are confused !

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Ray Oh

07-23-2002 18:37:25

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Re: What is it? Whats it worth? in reply to 9Njoe, 07-23-2002 17:31:51

Joe, Look Above The Steering Wheel & There Should Be A Plate With A Number On It. There Is A Plate Above The Distributer That Should Have A Serial Number On It.Take The Two Numbers & Look On The Ferguson Board At Serial Numbers & It Will Tell You Year & Model.

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9n'er

07-23-2002 18:31:56

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Re: What is it? Whats it worth? in reply to 9Njoe, 07-23-2002 17:31:51

could be a TO 30 or even an earlier 20. TO meaning "Tractor Overseas"

30 is the approx hp.

Fergusons were the result of Harry going out on his own and starting preoduction of these things in England right after the divorce from Henry Ford Tractor division.

There were two possible engine types on these in the USA. Harry Ferguson wanted the Continental Engine Co of Detroit, to supply the engines but the first ones were supplied by another engine manufacturer...name slips me. Can't rember if the Continentals were overhead valve engines...but I think they were.

Ferguson tractors out sold the Fords in the USA. Ferguson was smart enough to invest and design many innovative implements for his TO's or TE's (Tractor England).

There were some subtle improvements of the Ferguson over the Fords and the local markets picked up on that and they became very popular.

Something of interest: Ferguson was producing 4WD tractors in England abut 1951. He used Willy Jeep axles on those. These were 30 years ahead of time for production run 4WD tractors. Next in line were the Elenco's on the 100 Series Fords beginning about 1957/ give or take.

Price...depending on many variables it is hard to predict. As one noted contributor to this site often says: "Your Mileage May Vary"

good luck. 9N'er

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Willy-N

07-23-2002 18:03:27

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Re: What is it? Whats it worth? in reply to 9Njoe, 07-23-2002 17:31:51

I have a TO-30 and I like it. Clean they are worth as much as the Ns are. You can do anything with them a N can do too. Worth about the same and the big differents is over head valves, little more HP and the hood tilts forward. Other than that they are about the same. Another good tractor! Mark H.

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