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aq

08-06-2002 08:50:14




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I'm strongly considering buying an 8n for my property(8acres)Do most cat1/540pto implements work on this tractor? I need a Post hole digger,brush hog, and a tiller.I know where I can get an 8n with a loader for around 3k. Is this too much $$?
thanks in advance,
aq




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Alan45/Norway Il.

08-07-2002 18:54:36




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 Re: Implements in reply to aq, 08-06-2002 08:50:14  
Real simple forget tilling with and 8N unless you what to burn something up. I use a posthole digger on my 8N that I brought from farm&fleet I use a 9" bit works great you just have to take your time, what I do is let the drill go about 1 or 2 feet into the ground than start raising the 3point .
I have clay thats like rock to drill into.



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aq

08-06-2002 10:05:23




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 Re: Implements in reply to aq, 08-06-2002 08:50:14  
Thank you for enlightening me on these tractors. The tiller isn't exactly a big deal, I have a pretty heavy duty one for my Simplicity 9020 and I can just hang onto that one. The PHD is more of an issue because I can't get one in cat0/2000rpm.I currently move stuff around with a rear scoop and I would rather do that with a larger machine.So I could get away without a loader just fine however I do need to remove snow from my driveway. Is there a snowplow setup readily available for an "N"?
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JES

08-06-2002 09:47:02




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 Re: Implements in reply to aq, 08-06-2002 08:50:14  
For the money, the N is the ideal tractor for what you discribe, except a tiller. However, for around $100 you can get a 5' wide 6 spring cultivator which will turn over a garden real well. I use the cultivator to turn it over, then run a tiller by hand to chop up the soil a little more and make rows. Before I had the cultivator, I would till for an entire day. After spending an hour with the cultivator, I can "finish till" in about 2 hours.

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Bryan (CA)

08-06-2002 09:07:48




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 Re: Implements in reply to aq, 08-06-2002 08:50:14  
Yes, most Cat1 implements work on N's. One thing to consider is spline size of the N's PTO. The N's have a 1-1/8" spline. Some of the more power hungry imp's have a 1-3/8" shaft. Consensus there seems to be replace the PTO shaft with a 1-3/8" if you need to run one of those imp's. (Adaptors are weak and sounds like replacing shaft is easy (haven't done it myself)). Post hold diggers take a little finesse to use - mostly positioning problems. They work best in plain dirt with no rocks or hard clay. Drawback is that if you hit something hard and drill in the auger theres no reverse to back it out. You have horse it back out by hand with a big bar.
As for tillers - N's standard first gear is to fast for a tiller. The only way to run a tiller on an N is with a special step down tranny (can't remember the name right now) The sherman won't work because it reduces PTO speed as well as ground speed.
In my area, 3k for a decent N with a loader is a good price (not a steal but a good price).
One note about loaders - since the N's don't have power steering they are a bit tough to handle.

HTH

Bryan

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JES

08-06-2002 09:48:46




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 Re: Re: Implements in reply to Bryan (CA), 08-06-2002 09:07:48  
Bryan, I think you are talking about a Hupp step down. That may reduce speed enough, but another prob is the PTO speed is too slow for a tiller.



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Bryan (CA)

08-06-2002 11:43:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Implements in reply to JES, 08-06-2002 09:48:46  
Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Doesn't the Hupp reduce ground speed without reducing pto speed? I thought I read that on this board somewhere. I know the sherman reduces both due to where it is installed in the drive train.

Bryan



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JES

08-06-2002 12:14:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Implements in reply to Bryan (CA), 08-06-2002 11:43:53  
That is how I understand it. Although I have never tried it, I understand the normal PTO speed is to slow for a tiller. Then again, there are those guys who do it just fine. Maybe it depends how sandy your soil is.



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Evil Steve

08-06-2002 09:03:12




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 Re: Implements in reply to aq, 08-06-2002 08:50:14  
Your implements should work, including the ones you plan on buying. Realize that the N's PTO is uni-directional so you cannot reverse direction when using the post hole digger. You need an overrunning clutch to use with the hog.

$3K for an 8N with a loader is not enough info. If the tractor is in excellent operating condition, has good compression, has a reliable, well-operating hydraulic system (can't tell you how many people make this mistake when buying a used tractor), doesn't need tires or anything else expensive, then that is reasonable.

You'd better put that 3PNT system through the paces while checking it out.

Also, an N is not easy to steer with a loader. Hope you got big arms.

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Ron/Pa

08-06-2002 09:07:26




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 Re: Re: Implements in reply to Evil Steve, 08-06-2002 09:03:12  
Also, an N is a great all around machine, but it is NOT A tiller. Don't ask how I know,,,,,
Ron



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Ditto...Barnstormer

08-06-2002 09:39:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Implements in reply to Ron/Pa, 08-06-2002 09:07:26  
Been there, too. Think how much money and time could have been saved if we had had computers 30 or 40 years ago for some one to tell us "it won't work".
Although, how many times we didn't listen to our parents or only remembered what they said after we screwed up?



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