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Box Cars and N's

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OUTim

08-09-2002 05:47:51




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Every once in a while I run on to the statement Henry made about scaling the N's so that 14 of them fit in a box car.
How big was a standard box car in the 40's and 50's ?
Did they drive them on ? Lift them on ? Fork lift them on ? Were they double-decked ? Nose to rear or side-by-side ?




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Tyler (MD)

08-09-2002 15:24:18




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 Re: Box Cars and N's in reply to OUTim, 08-09-2002 05:47:51  
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Not sure how they racked 'em and stacked 'em? But I've heard of that story. Didn't hear the amount they could put on the box car, just that he had optimized the size of the N for the box car.

I love this pic of the N hauler;

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Tyman

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Gary R, (OH)

08-09-2002 21:43:45




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 Re: Re: Box Cars and N's in reply to Tyler (MD), 08-09-2002 15:24:18  
Wonder how many fish were swimming arround in that EPA approved canal? hehehe



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cargocult

08-09-2002 17:51:15




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 Re: Re: Box Cars and N's in reply to Tyler (MD), 08-09-2002 15:24:18  
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Hey Tyman...do you have any data on the pics?? Like when they were taken and where?? Obviously the shipping-yard one was taken at the Ford plant, but when?? The tractors are not 8-ns, but were they 9n's or 2ns? Got any more?? Thanks for puting them on this board...I've saved them to my screen-saver, along with all the other pix I've collected from my web-surfing. Quite an eclectic collection.

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Dave Smith

08-09-2002 16:45:53




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 Re: Re: Box Cars and N's in reply to Tyler (MD), 08-09-2002 15:24:18  
Tyler, Notice the window cleaners in the shipping yard photo. In the truck hawler photo, is that a plow hanging over the cab?
Dave <*)))><



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Gaspump

08-09-2002 17:23:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Box Cars and N's in reply to Dave Smith, 08-09-2002 16:45:53  
Good observation! Yes that is a plow attached to the tractor on the first truck and the second truck as well as the third truck! Another example of the productivity of the Henry and Harry combo. Not sure which was responsible for this innovation. Since Harry was the distributor was he also the shipper?



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Jon in Mass

08-09-2002 07:47:35




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 Re: Box Cars and N's in reply to OUTim, 08-09-2002 05:47:51  
Hmm ... trains happen to be my other interest besides tractors, so I'll give it a shot.

Most railroad boxcars of the 1940's and '50s were about 40 feet long, 10 feet wide and 10 feet high. There were also 50 foot cars used for automobiles. The drive-on triple deck auto rack cars used today did not exist then.

In either case you might be able to fit the 115" length of an 8N sideways which would allow a maximum of 7 in a 40 foot car or 9 in a 50 foot car, assuming a width of 65". Unless there was a way of stacking them on end which might allow 2 per row or the 14 you mentioned.

For autos the literature I have read mentioned an "Evans loader" which apparently was used to load the cars. They usually loaded through side doors as adding end doors made the car too stucturally weak.

Jon

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rbell

08-09-2002 11:00:59




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 Re: Re: Box Cars and N's in reply to Jon in Mass, 08-09-2002 07:47:35  
what happens if the wheels are in the narrowest position, and then they are set side by side with the nose to tail, nose to tail I.E. #1 with the front pointed east, #2 with the front pointed west
Would that not let three fit in just slightly more space than two that were parked with the rear wheels side by side?



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