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Peter H

08-12-2002 10:13:29




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I just finished rebuilding the engine on a late model 8N. I consider it a success because the tractor started, runs much smoother than prior to the rebuild, and I only have one left over part. I have a spring that is about 6 inches long and about 1/3 inch in diameter. The spring ends are bent into hooks, so it looks like it is pulling two objects together. It is painted red and has some rust on it, so it looks like it was on the outside of the engine.

Would someone please tell me what the spring is supposed to be connected to?

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Wayne

08-15-2002 07:53:27




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
Dell has the right info on the spring. Most 8N's I see are missing it and still run though the throttle lever will creep back toward idle without it and is agrivating. It is helpful to have it in place to hold constant rpm and keep the throttle lever in position. I found a substitute in my local farm supply store that did the job once I found out what they looked like. They actually go over center during their movement and are engineered to serve the purpose intended. I suspect it is something Ford added after the governor/carb/throttle linkage was developed to solve a problem of lever creep in operation.

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Thanks for the help - Peter H

08-13-2002 04:18:11




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
Thanks to all of you for the help. After the engine and tractor were completely assembled, I found the subject spring on my parts bench. Since I've only rebuilt one tractor, I knew the spring had to be from it. The confusing issue is that the completed tractor already had the throttle spring installed. I think what happened is that at some time in the distant past, and who knows how many owners ago, somebody replaced this streched out spring. The old spring was forgotten or lost in one of the nooks and crannies near the steering housing. It must have fallen out when the engine was removed, and somebody picked it up and placed it on the parts bench.

I'm sure it was convenient for the previous owner to just leave it. I know it was a sore puzzle for me to figure out where it went. Anyway, the 8N runs fine without the extra mystery spring.

Peter H

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Dell (WA)

08-12-2002 20:28:10




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
Peter..... ....thats a streched out governor compensating spring p/n 8N9827 (spring, 4.95" free length, 0.44 OD) the spring's long end connects to the pinch bolt throttle shaft lever arm p/n 8N9807 at the bottom of p/n 8N9805 throttle shaft. The springs short arm connects to tab p/n 8N9855 (plate, governor compensating spring anchor) bolted to your tranny/engine interface seam. Hope this helps..... .....Dell

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Bob /Ont.

08-12-2002 16:09:00




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
Peter you got the makins of a good mechanic, now when you have a 6 Qt. basket of parts left over your a profesional.
Later Bob



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Willy-N

08-12-2002 14:02:14




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
That looks like the spring that goes behind the dash to hold the throttle linkage from streching out when you pull the throttle back. It hooks to each end of the sockets with the ball joints in them on a 9N and on a 8N it goes to the angle peice of metal with the little hole in it to the socket. Mark H.



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Dave Todd

08-12-2002 13:18:03




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
Peter, There are only two springs with hooks on the ends on your tractor that I can think of, that have anything to do with the engine. One short spring that goes on the governor, and the one longer spring for the throttle, which is what some of the other posts were about. Only other springs with hooks on the ends would be for the throwout bearing for the clutch, and for the brakes, but they would be back on the brake shoes.
Good Luck!!!
Dave

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08-12-2002 12:18:30




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
I posted a picture of the mystery spring in the "Help Identify" Gallery. To quickly locate the picture, search for "1952". It is labeled: 1952 Ford 8N



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Larry

08-12-2002 10:30:09




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
Peter,

This is the "throttle spring". Notice on the right side of the tractor where the block and transmission casting are bolted together there should be a metal "tab" on the bolt just behind the manifold. Sometimes this is lost if the tractor is "split".

The spring attaches here, and connects to the rod that runs from the throttle lever to the governor.

If I had your address I'd send a picture.

Regards.

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Peter H

08-12-2002 10:37:28




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 Re: Re: Left over spring in reply to Larry, 08-12-2002 10:30:09  
I already have the throttle spring attached as you have described. I included my email address in this posting.

Thanks anyway.



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Danny in CO

08-12-2002 10:19:47




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
I agree with Steve W. There sould be a spring about that size on the governor/carb linkage. Off hand I don't remember excatly where it connects.

Danny



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Steve W

08-12-2002 10:15:50




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 Re: Left over spring in reply to Peter H, 08-12-2002 10:13:29  
On my 2N there is a sprng like that somewhere on the top of the engine which is part of the throttle system....all I can think of short of a brake spring....

take Care
Steve



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