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Ron

09-13-2002 19:20:18

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I am putting my steering box back together. The manual shows there is a steering gear sector shaft packing and a steering gear sector shaft packing retainer. Ford's sheet shows that there are 2 packings on top of each other and no retainer. Which is the correct way?

Thanks again

Ron

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8N or 9N?...Tyler (MD)

09-14-2002 02:28:08

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Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to Ron, 09-13-2002 19:20:18

Tell us which one and we'll go from there. You don't need to get so much hassle from others to get your answers.

Tyman

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Ron

09-14-2002 05:11:03

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Re: Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to 8N or 9N?...Tyler (MD), 09-14-2002 02:28:08

Thanks Tyman. I have the later steering box.

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Dell (WA)

09-13-2002 21:58:07

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Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to Ron, 09-13-2002 19:20:18

Ron..... ..... I'm gonnna assume you're talking about the 8N's steering gearbox. Of course you know that there are 2 8N steering gearboxes, don't you? Sometimes its helpful to be a little more explicit and really identify what gearbox you are talking about.

Of course, the 2N/9N steering gearbox also have steering gear sector shaft packing in the form of 2 half-moons but it doesn't list a packing retainer, but you could call the Steering sector thrust washer a retainer, but Ford doesn't.

Don't know what Ford sheet you are looking at but my Ford Master Parts Catalog lists p/n 8N-3585 packing, (steering gears sector shaft) 8N, 1948-52. and it lists p/n 8N-3591 retainer, (steering gear sector shaft packing), 8N, 1948-52.

My I&T FO-4 8N steering gearbox conforms to the late 8N steering gearbox as exploded out in Fords' MPC.

All I can say is, some parts drawings are NOT TO SCALE. And some people say potato and I say spud..... ...Dell

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Ron

09-14-2002 05:09:52

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Re: Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to Dell (WA), 09-13-2002 21:58:07

We are talking the latest box for the 8n. Ford's master part sheet dated 2000 shows two packings stacked on top of each other. Just-8n's web site show that 4 packings are required (per their parts list) and they do not sell a "retainer". Ford does not sell a retainer. As you stated Dell the Manual shows a packing with retainer. I will be calling just8-ns but I am unsure if they are open on Saturdays and really need to get this thing back together today. So any help from someone who has completed this type of work would be appreciated.

Thanks for the replys

Ron

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Dell (WA)

09-14-2002 05:42:21

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Re: Re: Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to Ron, 09-14-2002 05:09:52

Ron..... ....I gave you the Ford MPC parts numbers for the late model 8N steering gearbox. As a general rule, retainers are reuseable. What happened to the originals? ..... ....Dell

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Ron

09-14-2002 05:50:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to Dell (WA), 09-14-2002 05:42:21

They were stuck. I tried prying them out gently. I tried pushing them out as I pressed the bushings out. We ended up destroying them getting them out. They are very light metal.

I know you gave me the part number but Ford now has the retainer and the packing refered to the P/N D5UZ3591A and that 2 are required for each side.

Thanks for the help. I just dont want to make any mistakes on this.

Ron

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OK . . . Dell (WA)

09-14-2002 06:57:46

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to Ron, 09-14-2002 05:50:28

Ron..... .....GO with the latest Ford parts as called for. 2 retainers p/n D5UZ3591A for each steering sector shaft.

Its the job of a parts person to be able to determine what the latest version of the basic part is. 8N3591 is the basic part number. D5UZ3591A is the latest version. Why is that so confusing to you? ..... ..... Dell

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LOL............dave#1

09-14-2002 12:39:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to OK . . . Dell (WA), 09-14-2002 06:57:46

LOL Why is that so confusing to you? ..... ..... Dell

LOL

See your makeing more friends Dell ! Keep up the friendly help !

ROFLMAO

later"belch"dave

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Ron

09-14-2002 07:14:53

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to OK . . . Dell (WA), 09-14-2002 06:57:46

Dell,
It is not confusing. I can stack 2 packings on top of each other with the best of them.

Maybe I just put more faith in what the people say here than the high school drop out that has the title of "parts person".

I was asking to make sure it is done correctly and would last another 50 years. If it is bothering you if someone is confused or not sure of please, at least to me, dont answer. Leave it for someone else.

I was hoping to get the answer from someone experienced with this rebuild. I could wait until Monday morning to call Don but really need to put it together today.

I will take your advice and just do it. Without yet a definitive answer from someone who has done it.

Thanks again Dell,
Ron

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Tyler (MD)

09-14-2002 16:52:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to Ron, 09-14-2002 07:14:53

Ron,

Call Don Monday and he'll fix you up. He's full of help, experience, and willing to give you repectful answers to your questions. Don't worry about the disrespectful answers you've gotten here. I think someone just needs an attitude adjustment. (pint of 100 proof Old Grandad)

LMAO,
Tyman

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Ron

09-14-2002 18:25:02

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is correct Ford or the IT Manual in reply to Tyler (MD), 09-14-2002 16:52:20

Thanks Tyman,
I already put it back together. As for the attitude adjustment it aint nuttin but a thang. Didnt get my pressure up.

Thanks again

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09-14-2002 00:57:22

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