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2000 coil replacement question

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Andy (N.C.)

09-23-2002 10:46:53




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I recently lost fire to the plugs of my 2000. Meter tested points, for continuity and voltage. Everything seemed fine. Replaced condenser, rotor button, and distributer cap, still no spark. Decided to replace the coil as well. This is an original 6 volt positive ground system. Went to the Ford parts place, told the guy what I had, and picked up a new coil. When I got home and opened the box, the coil is a 12 volt coil. I called the parts guy back, told him again what I had, and asked if he was sure this was the right coil. He said that it was. My old coil had "dist" and "batt" on the terminials. The new coil only has "+" and "-". I asked the guy which was which. He assured me that the "-" was the battery and the "+" went to the distrubuter. Didn't sound right to me, but I installed it as he said. Still no spark. First, can anyone confirm if a coil clearly marked 12 volts be used on a 6 volt system, and secondly, does the battery wire attach to the "-" terminal and the "+" go to the distrubuter? Thanks for the help, I need to plow.

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Dell (WA)

09-23-2002 11:00:42




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 Re: 2000 coil replacement question in reply to Andy (N.C.), 09-23-2002 10:46:53  
Andy..... ...Some Ford parts places are selling what is really a real 6 volt coil as a 12 volt coil that is usually clearly marked "needs resistor". Not certain about yours.

If you are technically minded, a real 6 volt roundcan ignition coil will measure about 3 ohms and a real 12 volt coil will measure about 6 ohms. Exact values not critical for determining wheather 6 or 12 volts. Difference is about a factor of 2. Understand?

On the coil, (+) to battery (+), and (-) to battery (-). That means if your tractor is positive ground, then the coil (+) goes to the points which are "grounding". Understand?

Lastly, a real 12 volt coil on a real 6 volt battery system ain't gonnna have 'nuff sparkies to even knock ya on yer buttt let alone light off your engine.

I'm very suspicious, based upon your reports, that you DON'T HAVE a 6 volt coil..... .Dell

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Andy (NC)

09-23-2002 12:02:08




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 Re: Re: 2000 coil replacement question in reply to Dell (WA), 09-23-2002 11:00:42  
Dell,
Thanks for the info. I think I'm following you. This is a true 6 volt positive ground system, so what the guy told me about the (+) terminal going to the distrubuter now makes sense. I'll ohm the old one, and the new one out this afternoon and see how the readings compare. I understand the factor of 2 you mentioned. The new coil definitly has 12 volt clearly written on it, and there is some other wording about the resistor, but I can't remember exactly what it said. A couple of things for clarification. I did buy the replacement at a Ford New Holland dealer, not a car parts place, and also there was no externial resistor on the original. If I get a 6 ohm or greater reading on the new one, I guess that means I need to make another trip to the parts house... huh?

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Dell (WA)

09-23-2002 13:33:49




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 Re: Re: Re: 2000 coil replacement question in reply to Andy (NC), 09-23-2002 12:02:08  
Andy..... ....I was a little sloppy in my answer. I understood you got your "questionable" ignition coil from your Ford/New Holland dealer.

I should have been more explicit and said: there are some "Ford/New Holland dealers" selling a generic 1-size fitts all, roundcan ignition coil as a 6 volt coil that is labled for 12 volts and sez: must be use a resistor. And then the electrically challenged mechanic trys to use it on a 6 volt system WITH a 12 to 6 volt converting resistor, and wonders WHY his new ignition coil don't gotts NO SPARKIES????

So the general rule is: IF the coil primary resistance is about 3 ohms, its a 6 volt coil and use NO resistance. IF the coil primary resistance is about 6 ohms, its a 12 volt coil and ya gotta get a different one 'cuz it'll never work on 6 volts..... .....Dell

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Andy (NC)

09-24-2002 08:13:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2000 coil replacement question in reply to Dell (WA), 09-23-2002 13:33:49  
Sounds like that's what they sold me. To be exact this is what is written on the coil "Use with primary resistance wire or externial resistor" then down below it's marked "12volts". I did ohm out both the old and new coil. I was using a Fluke digital meter and on the 400 ohm range setting, I read 1.3 on the old one and 1.5 on the new one, close in comparison, but less than the 3 ohms you mentioned. I guess the new coil is O.K. as a replacement, but I still don't have fire at the plugs. Went back through everything again and found the new points, when closed, were not really closing. Filed those a little and that took care of that. Daylight ran out on me, and I'm gonna have to pick it up again this evening. Thanks for your help.

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Phil (NJ-AZ-SK)

09-24-2002 13:15:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2000 coil replacement question in reply to Andy (NC), 09-24-2002 08:13:17  
Andy, Ford Coil 6V is exactly 1.3 Ohms.

JMHO



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Dell (WA)

09-24-2002 12:08:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2000 coil replacement question in reply to Andy (NC), 09-24-2002 08:13:17  
Andy..... ..did you check the Fluke ohmmeter "ZERO?" by shorting the leads together?. That is important for low resistance measurements. Non-the-less, sounds like you're getting there. I personally don't like filing ignition points because they tend to burn out in a short time from introduceing contaminates and rough surfaces. Just so you're aware..... ....Dell



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