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PLUG WIRES, WHAT TO USE

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PHILIP

09-25-2002 05:01:53




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BACK IN 1996 I PURCHASED A SET OF MOTORCRAFT SIPCON PLUG WIRES FROM THE NEW HOLLAND DEALER FOR MY 1950 FRONT MOUNT 8N. MY TRACTOR HAS BEEN MISSING A LITTLE SO I DECIDED TO REPLACE THE WIRES, ALONG WITH A COMPLETE TUNE UP. WHEN I PURCHASED NEW WIRES, MY PARTS SUPPLIER STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THE TISCO REPLACEMENT COPPER CORE WIRES. I INSTALLED THE TISCO WIRES AND THE MISS IS GONE, BUT NOW MY COMBINATION HOUR/DIGITAL VOLTMETER IS ACTING FUNNY. MY QUESTION, THE SIPCON WIRES HAVE A RESISTANCE OF 8,000 - 16,000 OHMS, WHERE THE TISCO WIRES HAVE A RESISTANCE OF LESS THAN 1 OHM. WHATS UP WITH THIS? WHY SO MUCH DIFFERENCE? WHICH IS BEST FOR ME? THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. PHILIP.

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Dell (WA)

09-25-2002 08:07:38




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 Re: PLUG WIRES, WHAT TO USE in reply to PHILIP, 09-25-2002 05:01:53  
Phillip..... ..... The frontmount ignition system sparkies are just addequate at best. And while the carbon-core radio interferance suppressing "sipcon" ignition wires worked for you (for a while), the built-in resistance cuts down available sparkies, and when your points and plugs wear (which is a normal), the loss of available sparkies is noticied as a "miss". And unless you are listening to your radio as you tractor, you'll never miss the "sipcon".

I think your TISCO parts guy did you a great service by insisting you use their copper core sparkie wire. Remember, the OEM sparkie wires were copper-core.

12 yrs ago, right after I got my 8N, I replaced my old stiff and cracked sparkie wires with high quality copper-core "hot-rod" wires for a Pontiac V-8 because the sparkie end had right-angle sparkie boots. They're still good.

But now you've got a radio interference problem from your good copper-core sparkie wires with your modern battery powered transistorized solid state tachometer.

Heres the trick, get a 10K (10,000) ohm 1 watt resistor from RadioShack and wire that (solder and insulate) into your tach sensor wire as close as you can to your tach. (you may have to cut the wire next to the tach, a couple of inches is close enuff, use your engineering judgement) It will act just like your old sipcon carbon-core radio suppression sparkie wire..... .....Dell, the old radio guy

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Dell (WA)

09-25-2002 08:06:35




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 Re: PLUG WIRES, WHAT TO USE in reply to PHILIP, 09-25-2002 05:01:53  
Phillip..... ..... The frontmount ignition system sparkies are just addequate at best. And while the carbon-core radio interferance suppressing "sipcon" ignition wires worked for you (for a while), the built-in resistance cuts down available sparkies, and when your points and plugs wear (which is a normal), the loss of available sparkies is noticied as a "miss". And unless you are listening to your radio as you tractor, you'll never miss the "sipcon".

I think your TISCO parts guy did you a great service by insisting you use their copper core sparkie wire. Remember, the OEM sparkie wires were copper-core.

12 yrs ago, right after I got my 8N, I replaced my old stiff and cracked sparkie wires with high quality copper-core "hot-rod" wires for a Pontiac V-8 because the sparkie end had right-angle sparkie boots. They're still good.

But now you've got a radio interference problem from your good copper-core sparkie wires with your modern battery powered transistorized solid state tachometer.

Heres the trick, get a 10K (10,000) ohm 1 watt resistor from RadioShack and wire that (solder and insulate) into your tach sensor wire as close as you can to your tach. (you may have to cut the wire next to the tach, a couple of inches is close enuff, use your engineering judgement) It will act just like your old sipcon carbon-core radio suppression sparkie wire..... .....Dell, the old radio guy

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bg

09-25-2002 06:16:24




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 Re: PLUG WIRES, WHAT TO USE in reply to PHILIP, 09-25-2002 05:01:53  
I don't know what Sipcon wires are, but I'm guessing that they are carbon filament radio-suppression. If the tractor runs better with the Tisco wires(which it should), I'd try to figure out a way to isolate the meter or shield it and its supply wires from the plug wires.



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Don, Luling LA

09-25-2002 06:15:39




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 Re: PLUG WIRES, WHAT TO USE in reply to PHILIP, 09-25-2002 05:01:53  
The other wires you were using supress the electormagnetic waves that your ignition system is producing each time it fires a plug through the plug wires. With the solid core you don't suppress those so called radio waves and it's most likely interfering with your fancy meter. You will also find that if you get near an AM radio it will really interfere with it when your tractor is running. You might be able to install one of those capicators used for radios to suppress noise for that meter of yours to work properly. You may also want to check how you have your spark plug wires routed, they may be really close to one of the supply wires to your meter which can also cause it to be erratic.
Good luck

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