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Bama8N

10-10-2002 00:29:08




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I have another site I visit a lot and am having trouble using it. Link It takes about 5 minutes to open the site and about that long to open each message. It started yesterday, then last night it got normal. Today it is slow again. Other forums like this one operate normally. What could be bogging me down? Maybe one of you could open the site and see if it operates OK for you. Thanks, Dale

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John Fitzpatrick

10-10-2002 11:51:03




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 Re: OT- Computer Help in reply to Bama8N, 10-10-2002 00:29:08  
If the problem started yeterday, it could have been the UUNet crash that affected 30% or so of internet traffic. Donno if they're still having problems. Story's at Link



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David Coe in MD (long and a bit technical)

10-10-2002 08:34:51




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 Re: OT- Computer Help in reply to Bama8N, 10-10-2002 00:29:08  
The best way I know to find out where the problem is, when something like that happens, is to run "traceroute" (or, on windows systems, "TRACERT") at a command prompt (MS-DOS window).

That shows you how long it takes to get a reply from each machine (router or computer) along the path between you and the server you're trying to reach.

It tries each one three times, and tells you how long each of those replies took.

So, if I want to see what's slowing down the traffic between me and www.dune-buggy.com (just use the machine name like that; without the "http://" and "/whatever/whatever..."), I see this (which shows no problems between me and that server):

 % traceroute www.dune-buggy.com
traceroute to dune-buggy.com (207.173.159.240), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 router.someotherplace.org (209.150.100.33) 4 ms 10 ms 3 ms 2 pm2-balt.qis.net (209.150.97.3) 36 ms 35 ms 36 ms 3 cr1-balt-e1-0.qis.net (209.150.97.1) 36 ms 36 ms 37 ms 4 64.213.176.73 (64.213.176.73) 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms 5 pos5-0-622M.ar2.PHI1.gblx.net (206.132.118.225) 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms 6 pos1-0-622M.cr2.WDC2.gblx.net (208.178.174.122) 44 ms 40 ms 41 ms 7 so2-0-0-622M.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net (64.215.195.13) 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 8 fe-1-2-0--0.er01.asbn.eli.net (207.173.144.25) 43 ms 41 ms 42 ms 9 p7-3.cr01.mcln.eli.net (207.173.114.129) 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms
10 p11-3.cr01.chcg.eli.net (207.173.115.89) 73 ms 74 ms 71 ms
11 p10-0.cr02.slkc.eli.net (207.173.115.53) 125 ms 125 ms 124 ms
12 p9-0.cr01.bois.eli.net (207.173.114.65) 131 ms 130 ms 131 ms
13 srp0-0-0.gw02.bois.eli.net (208.186.20.196) 130 ms 144 ms 131 ms
14 r1-ether.qwk.net (209.210.235.14) 131 ms 131 ms 133 ms
15 207.173.159.240 (207.173.159.240) 133 ms 132 ms 132 ms

If you see "*" in place of one or more of the times (e.g "* 125 ms *") it means that particular computer didn't respond at all on that try. The first machine (starting from the top) that has *'s for the response times or very high response times is most likely the one that's causing you trouble. Sometimes you can guess from its name whether it's at your own ISP, somewhere out on the backbone, or at the site you're trying to contact -- and with a little more research using "host" or "dig" and "whois" (sorry, I don't know the windows names for those programs, but they're freely available on the 'net) you can find out where that machine is and whom to contact about it.

(Or, like I usually do, you can just nod your head, say "well, at least I know it's not my problem," get on with your life, and try again some other time.

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kevin

10-10-2002 08:18:17




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 Re: OT- Computer Help in reply to Bama8N, 10-10-2002 00:29:08  
As someone else wrote- if everything else seems normal, it is probably a knot in the hose at their end.

Some people run servers out of their house or business with a slow upstream rate- sometimes even a modem or ISDN and they are just too slow for the traffic load.

fwiw



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And Since...MikeC

10-10-2002 09:05:24




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 Re: Re: OT- Computer Help in reply to kevin, 10-10-2002 08:18:17  
Since it seemed to go away I have to suspect that they were running some maintenance on the server(s). Of course, if it is a slow connection with all the extra traffic from this site it probably is REALLY hosed now!



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bg

10-10-2002 06:29:39




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 Re: OT- Computer Help in reply to Bama8N, 10-10-2002 00:29:08  
It probably has something to do with traffic on network. I notice that here on the east coast that things slow down between 5-6 PM when everybody is using the web before leaving work and after getting home.



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Ron/PA

10-10-2002 04:30:56




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 Re: OT- Computer Help in reply to Bama8N, 10-10-2002 00:29:08  
Snapped right open for me. Ron



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MikeC

10-10-2002 03:27:00




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 Re: OT- Computer Help in reply to Bama8N, 10-10-2002 00:29:08  
If it is only that site and others all operate normally for you then I would suspect that the problem is on their end, not yours.



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Bama8N

10-10-2002 09:59:07




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 Re: Re: OT- Computer Help in reply to MikeC, 10-10-2002 03:27:00  
The site seems to be running normal now. Must heve been bogged down. Thanks for the help.
To David Coe in Md., it's going to take me a while to download all that to my brain, so if it's OK I'll just keep it on file for now. There are some smart people in this world. I bet most of them own N's.



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