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RonofOhio

10-29-2002 12:38:40




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When I first start my 9n, you can feel exhaust gases (and hear them and see traces of carbon excaping from the rear-upper corner of the exhaust manifold. Last time I took the manifold off (which was about 3 years ago), I replaced the gasket but the leak is still there. Don't know if it will eventially damage anything or not but would surely like to repair it. I'm just not sure if the gasket was too small, or if the manifold is too small or is the exhaust ports have increased in size. Do you think that I might be able to 'loosen and adjust' the manifold rearward and upward to cover the leak?

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Les, TN

10-30-2002 07:28:59




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 Re: exhaust manifold leak in reply to RonofOhio, 10-29-2002 12:38:40  
The double gasket trick just might work. I just wonder about the constant thickness across the entire face of the block. There should be something available just to stick in the etched out area.

Just mulling here . . . How about stove cement? The kind used for caulking your woodstove and chimney? Just a dab on the block and put your gasket on over top of it while it's still wet? Then bolt the manifold down. You just need something heat-resistant that will not blow out with exhaust pressure.

Or, how about just a smidge of the rope stuff that goes around the door of the stove. Coat it with the stove cement, gasket, etc. It keeps the fire in the Ashley, why not the Ford?

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Yankin NC

10-30-2002 06:26:48




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 Re: exhaust manifold leak in reply to RonofOhio, 10-29-2002 12:38:40  
Dave, I replaced my manifold and gasket about two years ago. It started leaking again about a month ago, so I purchased two gaskets, and put them both on. I haven't had it leak since, but don't know how long it will last!
Yank



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Dave OH

10-29-2002 17:05:46




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 Re: exhaust manifold leak in reply to RonofOhio, 10-29-2002 12:38:40  
If you don't do as Dell said it WILL grove the block. Penny wise and pound foolish isn't the way to go.
Dave OH



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Dell (WA)

10-29-2002 14:26:43




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 Re: exhaust manifold leak in reply to RonofOhio, 10-29-2002 12:38:40  
Ron..... ...ya gotts a burned out exhaust manifold flange. $50 for new. Get some new brass nuts too, torque 27 ft/lbs.

Ain't worth time to try and repair it. Castiron doesn't weld very good and exhaust contaminated castiron doesn't weld worth stuff. You can "braze" castiron, but guess what? braze melts at exhaust gas tempature.

If you decide to not follow my advice, lets hope that all that excapeing exhaust gas doesn't corrode your engine block which is impossibe to fix without replacement..... ...respectfully, Dell

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RonofOhio

10-30-2002 09:53:36




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 Re: Re: exhaust manifold leak in reply to Dell (WA), 10-29-2002 14:26:43  
It doesn't appear to be burned and is pretty assimeteric without any burned spots. I'm hoping you are right about the manifold and $50 is cheap. Dell, Do you favor any specific parts supplier? Seems someone spoke about someone named Don. Specifically how do I get in touch with him. I usually go to the local New Holland dealer or TSC. And thanks to all who offered suggestions.



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Gary R, (OH)

10-29-2002 17:23:01




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 Re: Re: exhaust manifold leak in reply to Dell (WA), 10-29-2002 14:26:43  
Dell, my block has some corrosion at the foreward edge of the front exhaust port I would guess less than 1/16" deep & maybee 1/4" wide. I was hoping that a new gasket will take care of that. worst case,couldn't that area be ground out to uncontaminated steel welded & resurfaced?



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Evil Steve

10-30-2002 06:39:25




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 Re: Re: Re: exhaust manifold leak in reply to Gary R, (OH), 10-29-2002 17:23:01  
That is a common problem caused by owners who ignore leaking manifolds for to long. It will evetually eat away the block too.

Having said that you CAN, but not easily, grind the block evenly to fix the problem but you will have to remove the manifold studs to do it. Talk about a pain! Are you sure the manifold itself is not burned too? Normally, it burns away much faster than the block. $75 or so for new manifold and $2 for gaskets. I'd try that first before grinding the block. BTW, I've heard people suggest using Permatex to seal this kind of problem. It'll work for a few hours beofre it too burns away.

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Gary R, (OH)

10-30-2002 17:45:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: exhaust manifold leak in reply to Evil Steve, 10-30-2002 06:39:25  
Thanks for the info,I'm working towards a restoration as my budget allows already got the new manifold and gaskets from Don. I think they will cove the damage .



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