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Arnold

12-20-2002 18:10:18




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I just finished rebuilding a 52-8n steering box and it works great. Now I need some advice on a 48-8n steering problem.I can't get any slack out of the sector geers by turning the sector shaft covers, they will turn all the way around and not take any backlash out??? I don't have any up & down movement in the steering box when I pull up & down on the steering wheel. Could it be the worm shaft bearing adjustment is too tight? Or the sector geers are worn out? The steering wheel is hard to turn and the right wheel is pointed inward.

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DON TX

12-20-2002 21:26:24




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 Re: steering question in reply to Arnold, 12-20-2002 18:10:18  
The sector shaft cover is only a slight adjustment. Thats why the N Guru's call it a nonadjustable steering box. I'm not aware of any worm shaft adjustment. If it's not moving up and down thats good. Means the bearings and bottom bushing may be in good shape. Take it apart, clean it good, and see what might be the prob. The sector gears are the most expensive parts. @ $360 apeice if memory serves me. If you rebuilt a 52 the 48 shouldn't scare ya. A manual really helps to set the gear splines together correctly. The rt tire inward can be adjusted thru the draglink. After the box is together adjust the draglinks for toein. Don't forget to lightly oil the bushings during assembly. Helps until the oil works it's way thru.HTH
DON TX

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Mountainman

12-20-2002 20:22:32




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 Re: steering question in reply to Arnold, 12-20-2002 18:10:18  
Arnold,

"I don't have any up & down movement in the steering box when I pull up & down on the steering wheel. Could it be the worm shaft bearing adjustment is too tight?"

Usually when the wheel has no up and down play it is a good sign but if things are falling apart in there and are jambed up that is another story. It could well be that the bearings are worn out and the lower one is full of crud. Sounds more like either the bushings are worn out or the gears themselves are worn out. If you steer all the way to one side or the other, can you still turn the adjusting sector shaft covers all the way around? I'd bet not or at least there will be a spot that is noticeably harder to turn past.

I would open it up for a look, expecting to replace the shaft bearings, races and the seals (and probably bushings) on the sector shafts at the very least. There is a soft plug on the bottom of the box that allows you to remove the lower race.

And fill it with grease when you are done - it won't leak and will work fine.

hth

Mountainman...CA

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Arnold ------------Thanks for the reply Mountainman

12-22-2002 16:31:36




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 Re: Re: steering question in reply to Mountainman, 12-20-2002 20:22:32  
I think you are right abour the worm shaft bearing adjustment being too tight. I am going to replace the sector bushings and if that doesn't do any good I will take the steering box out and check it out. Thanks for the info.



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DON TX

12-20-2002 18:29:11




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 Re: steering question in reply to Arnold, 12-20-2002 18:10:18  
I tightened mine by replacing the sector bushings. Had a machinist ream the bushings for the sectors. Lots tighter now. If I can just find time to replace the draglink I'll know how much slop is left. The sector gears didn't show any wear. Am told will always have a little slop. Took out about 2" of slop with the new bushings. HTH
DON TX



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George Willer

12-21-2002 08:05:06




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 Re: Re: steering question in reply to DON TX, 12-20-2002 18:29:11  
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I had the same problem on my '47. There wasn't enough throw on the eccentric adjustment. My plan was to re-bore the adjustment hub with more throw and use thicker bushings. I'm sure it would have worked, but the tractor flew the nest before I got it done.

George Willer

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Arnold---------------------thanks George

12-22-2002 17:57:47




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 Re: Re: Re: steering question in reply to George Willer, 12-21-2002 08:05:06  
Sounds like you took the easy way out.
I might have to try it if a rebuild doesen't work.



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Arnold========thanks Don

12-20-2002 19:19:18




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 Re: Re: steering question in reply to DON TX, 12-20-2002 18:29:11  
Don I do have loose bushings in the sector covers and I will replace them. I don't thank that is all of my problem though.



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